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10:40am Wed 17 Jul 13

Blue Owl says...

Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But.............
There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.
The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ???
So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But............. There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ??? So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term. David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl
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1:07pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Koenigninners says...

Has the price per unit of electricity generated that EDF have negotiated been revealed to the public yet?
Has the price per unit of electricity generated that EDF have negotiated been revealed to the public yet? Koenigninners
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4:15pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Samej1 says...

This announcement sounds like smoke and mirrors - the numbers sound great but what do they really mean on the ground?
This announcement sounds like smoke and mirrors - the numbers sound great but what do they really mean on the ground? Samej1
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4:43pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Blue Owl says...

Samej1 wrote:
This announcement sounds like smoke and mirrors - the numbers sound great but what do they really mean on the ground?
This is the crux of the matter, the EDF Hinkley C Build is around the £20 Billions build cost, so these figures of compensation over 40 years of £3 Million per year fall far short of what I would expect the Communities to benefit over the years.!!!
That's unless there is to be a totally Separate legacy fund, as I posted earlier for the " Storage of Spent Fuel Rods" on Site or adjacent.
No where within the documentation I've seen,to date identifies this. !!!???
Are we being Duped by EDF ???
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Samej1[/bold] wrote: This announcement sounds like smoke and mirrors - the numbers sound great but what do they really mean on the ground?[/p][/quote]This is the crux of the matter, the EDF Hinkley C Build is around the £20 Billions build cost, so these figures of compensation over 40 years of £3 Million per year fall far short of what I would expect the Communities to benefit over the years.!!! That's unless there is to be a totally Separate legacy fund, as I posted earlier for the " Storage of Spent Fuel Rods" on Site or adjacent. No where within the documentation I've seen,to date identifies this. !!!??? Are we being Duped by EDF ??? David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl
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10:40pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Mike Rigby says...

The shame of it is that communities hosting windfarms get 5x as much cash per MWh as those hosting nuclear power stations. Where is the sense in that? Had the Government set the community benefit levy on nuclear at the same level as wind, we'd be getting £15m a year, not £3m. #Fail
The shame of it is that communities hosting windfarms get 5x as much cash per MWh as those hosting nuclear power stations. Where is the sense in that? Had the Government set the community benefit levy on nuclear at the same level as wind, we'd be getting £15m a year, not £3m. #Fail Mike Rigby
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11:16pm Wed 17 Jul 13

xxmatronxx says...

My hope is that when this station eventually gets the go ahead to be built, the jobs go to local people. The rumours are rife that jobs are being advertised abroad as was the case with the huge Morrisons development. It could end a lot of unemployment issues in Somerset.
My hope is that when this station eventually gets the go ahead to be built, the jobs go to local people. The rumours are rife that jobs are being advertised abroad as was the case with the huge Morrisons development. It could end a lot of unemployment issues in Somerset. xxmatronxx
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11:55pm Wed 17 Jul 13

bts73 says...

£128million - i wonder if the residents of fukushima would agree thats a reasonable sum in exchange for the risk they took on. somehow i doubt it.
£128million - i wonder if the residents of fukushima would agree thats a reasonable sum in exchange for the risk they took on. somehow i doubt it. bts73
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12:14am Thu 18 Jul 13

bts73 says...

Blue Owl wrote:
Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But.............
There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.
The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ???
So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.

60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years :

Tc99 - 211,000 years
Sn126 - 230,000 years
Se79 - 327,000 years
Zr93 - 1,500,000 years
Cs135 - 2,300,000 years
Pd107 - 6,500,000 years
I129 - 15,700,000 years

I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But............. There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ??? So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term. David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. 60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years : Tc99 - 211,000 years Sn126 - 230,000 years Se79 - 327,000 years Zr93 - 1,500,000 years Cs135 - 2,300,000 years Pd107 - 6,500,000 years I129 - 15,700,000 years I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years. bts73
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12:21am Thu 18 Jul 13

bts73 says...

Mike Rigby wrote:
The shame of it is that communities hosting windfarms get 5x as much cash per MWh as those hosting nuclear power stations. Where is the sense in that? Had the Government set the community benefit levy on nuclear at the same level as wind, we'd be getting £15m a year, not £3m. #Fail
Thats because in 30 years time, communities hosting defunct windfarms wont be paying out vast sums of money to mange the 'windfarm legacy'.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Rigby[/bold] wrote: The shame of it is that communities hosting windfarms get 5x as much cash per MWh as those hosting nuclear power stations. Where is the sense in that? Had the Government set the community benefit levy on nuclear at the same level as wind, we'd be getting £15m a year, not £3m. #Fail[/p][/quote]Thats because in 30 years time, communities hosting defunct windfarms wont be paying out vast sums of money to mange the 'windfarm legacy'. bts73
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9:08am Thu 18 Jul 13

Mi_Coc says...

bts73 wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But.............
There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.
The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ???
So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.

60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years :

Tc99 - 211,000 years
Sn126 - 230,000 years
Se79 - 327,000 years
Zr93 - 1,500,000 years
Cs135 - 2,300,000 years
Pd107 - 6,500,000 years
I129 - 15,700,000 years

I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.
We have little alternative biomass turns out to be wood chipings from us and in come cases whole tree! No one wants wind farms! No one wants any form of power creating plant near them and marine will suffer if we have a barrage.

Nuclear if control in a very safe way seems our best bet. It all very well being all doom and gloom about it but you dont want power black outs. Yes it will bring lots of jobs and yes a small proportion will be foreign. Having worked with in no more than 15%. Having worked with edfe in the past they take safety very very seriously and that is across the board. They wont take any unnecessary risks,
[quote][p][bold]bts73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But............. There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ??? So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term. David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. 60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years : Tc99 - 211,000 years Sn126 - 230,000 years Se79 - 327,000 years Zr93 - 1,500,000 years Cs135 - 2,300,000 years Pd107 - 6,500,000 years I129 - 15,700,000 years I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.[/p][/quote]We have little alternative biomass turns out to be wood chipings from us and in come cases whole tree! No one wants wind farms! No one wants any form of power creating plant near them and marine will suffer if we have a barrage. Nuclear if control in a very safe way seems our best bet. It all very well being all doom and gloom about it but you dont want power black outs. Yes it will bring lots of jobs and yes a small proportion will be foreign. Having worked with in no more than 15%. Having worked with edfe in the past they take safety very very seriously and that is across the board. They wont take any unnecessary risks, Mi_Coc
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6:43pm Thu 18 Jul 13

bts73 says...

Mi_Coc wrote:
bts73 wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But.............
There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.
The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ???
So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.

60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years :

Tc99 - 211,000 years
Sn126 - 230,000 years
Se79 - 327,000 years
Zr93 - 1,500,000 years
Cs135 - 2,300,000 years
Pd107 - 6,500,000 years
I129 - 15,700,000 years

I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.
We have little alternative biomass turns out to be wood chipings from us and in come cases whole tree! No one wants wind farms! No one wants any form of power creating plant near them and marine will suffer if we have a barrage.

Nuclear if control in a very safe way seems our best bet. It all very well being all doom and gloom about it but you dont want power black outs. Yes it will bring lots of jobs and yes a small proportion will be foreign. Having worked with in no more than 15%. Having worked with edfe in the past they take safety very very seriously and that is across the board. They wont take any unnecessary risks,
EDF may be very careful, but all humans make mistakes. The IAEA predicts we will have four more major nuclear disasters on the scale of chernobyl and fukushima before 2050. Will hinkley be one of them ?
[quote][p][bold]Mi_Coc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bts73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But............. There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ??? So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term. David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. 60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years : Tc99 - 211,000 years Sn126 - 230,000 years Se79 - 327,000 years Zr93 - 1,500,000 years Cs135 - 2,300,000 years Pd107 - 6,500,000 years I129 - 15,700,000 years I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.[/p][/quote]We have little alternative biomass turns out to be wood chipings from us and in come cases whole tree! No one wants wind farms! No one wants any form of power creating plant near them and marine will suffer if we have a barrage. Nuclear if control in a very safe way seems our best bet. It all very well being all doom and gloom about it but you dont want power black outs. Yes it will bring lots of jobs and yes a small proportion will be foreign. Having worked with in no more than 15%. Having worked with edfe in the past they take safety very very seriously and that is across the board. They wont take any unnecessary risks,[/p][/quote]EDF may be very careful, but all humans make mistakes. The IAEA predicts we will have four more major nuclear disasters on the scale of chernobyl and fukushima before 2050. Will hinkley be one of them ? bts73
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7:30pm Thu 18 Jul 13

susan 2003 says...

The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?
The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ? susan 2003
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7:59pm Thu 18 Jul 13

bts73 says...

susan 2003 wrote:
The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?
why cant we build on the site of hinkley a ? or am i correct in thinking that nuclear power stations are never decommissioned, but just turn into nuclear dumps ready to shed their load during the next seismic event ?
[quote][p][bold]susan 2003[/bold] wrote: The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?[/p][/quote]why cant we build on the site of hinkley a ? or am i correct in thinking that nuclear power stations are never decommissioned, but just turn into nuclear dumps ready to shed their load during the next seismic event ? bts73
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10:05pm Thu 18 Jul 13

Mi_Coc says...

susan 2003 wrote:
The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?
Edfe have accommodation at barnwood which is let over from when from it was british energy, apartments. They are used by some who wish to stay on site during shifts and people who maybe visit for a few days they are not full with foreigners. Its pretty standard stuff and has been carried from the days of british energy.
[quote][p][bold]susan 2003[/bold] wrote: The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?[/p][/quote]Edfe have accommodation at barnwood which is let over from when from it was british energy, apartments. They are used by some who wish to stay on site during shifts and people who maybe visit for a few days they are not full with foreigners. Its pretty standard stuff and has been carried from the days of british energy. Mi_Coc
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11:52pm Thu 18 Jul 13

susan 2003 says...

judging how large the site is on Bath Road were the accommodation is being built we will see !
judging how large the site is on Bath Road were the accommodation is being built we will see ! susan 2003
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9:26am Fri 19 Jul 13

Lord Gothover says...

There may have been a world historic breakthrough in the field of energy generation, which will render nuclear power stations obsolete within the next few years. Please check it out. First announced to an astonished world in 1989 by Professors Fleischman and Pons, then scientifically debunked, now this cold-fusion process has been developed by an Italian scientist, Andrea Rossi, into a working L.E.N.R (Low energy nuclear reaction) device. In the United States, the leading manufacturer is Defkalion. Please check it out. This process is cheap, pollution-free and can hopefully power the world in the near future.
There may have been a world historic breakthrough in the field of energy generation, which will render nuclear power stations obsolete within the next few years. Please check it out. First announced to an astonished world in 1989 by Professors Fleischman and Pons, then scientifically debunked, now this cold-fusion process has been developed by an Italian scientist, Andrea Rossi, into a working L.E.N.R (Low energy nuclear reaction) device. In the United States, the leading manufacturer is Defkalion. Please check it out. This process is cheap, pollution-free and can hopefully power the world in the near future. Lord Gothover
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9:28am Fri 19 Jul 13

Lord Gothover says...

Mi_Coc wrote:
bts73 wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But.............
There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.
The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ???
So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years.

60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years :

Tc99 - 211,000 years
Sn126 - 230,000 years
Se79 - 327,000 years
Zr93 - 1,500,000 years
Cs135 - 2,300,000 years
Pd107 - 6,500,000 years
I129 - 15,700,000 years

I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.
We have little alternative biomass turns out to be wood chipings from us and in come cases whole tree! No one wants wind farms! No one wants any form of power creating plant near them and marine will suffer if we have a barrage.

Nuclear if control in a very safe way seems our best bet. It all very well being all doom and gloom about it but you dont want power black outs. Yes it will bring lots of jobs and yes a small proportion will be foreign. Having worked with in no more than 15%. Having worked with edfe in the past they take safety very very seriously and that is across the board. They wont take any unnecessary risks,
We may well have an alternative. Check it out - L.E.N.R low energy nuclear reaction / previously known as Cold Fusion.
[quote][p][bold]Mi_Coc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bts73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: Good news, great to see that the continued pressure by all has resulted in some community benefit for the Hinkley C Project. But............. There is always a but, !! The next issue is the storarage of Spent Fuel Rods @ Hinkley Point and the further Compensation to us the Residents, for having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. The National Repository for this spent waste, is still on the drawing board, as to its design and possible location ??? So, just how much should we be compensated for this tempory storage over the long- Term. David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]>> having this Waste Storage on our doorstep for upwards of 60- 80 years. 60-80 years ? seems a little optimistic considering the half life of a lot of the fission products in a nuclear reactor are active for a tad longer than 80 years : Tc99 - 211,000 years Sn126 - 230,000 years Se79 - 327,000 years Zr93 - 1,500,000 years Cs135 - 2,300,000 years Pd107 - 6,500,000 years I129 - 15,700,000 years I think we will be unwilling caretakers for our nuclear legacy for a little longer than 80 years.[/p][/quote]We have little alternative biomass turns out to be wood chipings from us and in come cases whole tree! No one wants wind farms! No one wants any form of power creating plant near them and marine will suffer if we have a barrage. Nuclear if control in a very safe way seems our best bet. It all very well being all doom and gloom about it but you dont want power black outs. Yes it will bring lots of jobs and yes a small proportion will be foreign. Having worked with in no more than 15%. Having worked with edfe in the past they take safety very very seriously and that is across the board. They wont take any unnecessary risks,[/p][/quote]We may well have an alternative. Check it out - L.E.N.R low energy nuclear reaction / previously known as Cold Fusion. Lord Gothover
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4:12pm Fri 19 Jul 13

Samej1 says...

Let's just wait for peer review on that one...
Let's just wait for peer review on that one... Samej1
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8:54pm Sun 21 Jul 13

bts73 says...

i think uranium fission reactors are a dumb idea. if the site of an industrial process cant be made safe within one political term then it should be illegal.
i think uranium fission reactors are a dumb idea. if the site of an industrial process cant be made safe within one political term then it should be illegal. bts73
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1:55pm Tue 23 Jul 13

HipposRule says...

susan 2003 wrote:
The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?
I se where you are coming from, but even if the workers come from outside Somerset they will be living and spending their money in Somerset (before some - they'll be sending it all home to Poland/Romania) commentard ge's his tuppence in.
[quote][p][bold]susan 2003[/bold] wrote: The new Hinkley C We have been reading of all the local jobs this will create , if this is the case why are they building a complex to house the workers in if they are local then they will already live in the area ?[/p][/quote]I se where you are coming from, but even if the workers come from outside Somerset they will be living and spending their money in Somerset (before some - they'll be sending it all home to Poland/Romania) commentard ge's his tuppence in. HipposRule
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