Oliver & Son in Helston is site for planned JD Wetherspoon pub

Wetherspoons confirms location in Helston

Wetherspoons confirms location in Helston

First published in Cornwall

After weeks of speculation the location of where JD Wetherspoon hopes to open a pub in Helston has been revealed.

Oliver & Son, a home furnishing store on Coinagehall Street, has confirmed it is to close at the end of the year after 80 years trading in the town.

Owner Chris Oliver, who is the third generation of the family to run the business, has decided that it is time to retire and enjoy more time with his wife and family.

A conditional sale has been confirmed to the national low-cost pub chain, although the opening of a branch in the town is still subject to planning and licensing consent.

Mr Oliver said: “We trust that you will support their new venture as they will bring a huge increase in footfall to one of the principle streets of Helston as well as employing many more staff than we do.

“There is always a downside to such a decision and that is that our loyal staff will lose their employment.”

He urged local employers able to offer them jobs to contact him, adding: “Many of you will know them as friends and appreciate the knowledge and advice that you have received in an enjoyable and conscientious way from them.”

Mr Oliver added: “We thank all our clientele for their business, support and friendship over the years. We would like to think that much of our trade will stay in Helston and we commend to you the other local shops which will be able to satisfy your needs for furniture, carpets and soft furnishings.”

A “Grand Goodbye Sale” will be held later in the year, as all stock items must go. There have also been “considerable reductions” promised on special orders.

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3:58pm Thu 14 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Excellent news

I suggest the new Wetherspoons be named Oliver's
Excellent news I suggest the new Wetherspoons be named Oliver's telstar1962
  • Score: -2

4:20pm Thu 14 Aug 14

steve1to7 says...

That's great news for Helston. I suggest the new Wetherspoons be named The Henry Trengrouse, as I'm sure their trade will Rocket!!!
That's great news for Helston. I suggest the new Wetherspoons be named The Henry Trengrouse, as I'm sure their trade will Rocket!!! steve1to7
  • Score: 11

4:45pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Excellent news

I suggest the new Wetherspoons be named Oliver's
I had thought about that, but I do not think it such a good idea because there is Oliver's estate agents.

This is great news for Helston, I wonder who will be its first customer!
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Excellent news I suggest the new Wetherspoons be named Oliver's[/p][/quote]I had thought about that, but I do not think it such a good idea because there is Oliver's estate agents. This is great news for Helston, I wonder who will be its first customer! Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 8

5:37pm Thu 14 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Must be one of the worst kept secrets ever.
It is great that the so many people are in favour of this. Great news.
Must be one of the worst kept secrets ever. It is great that the so many people are in favour of this. Great news. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -14

6:48pm Thu 14 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Great news and i hope the name Qlivers will be incorporated somehow when it is named though as Gill has already said we have a Olivers estate agent.
Great news and i hope the name Qlivers will be incorporated somehow when it is named though as Gill has already said we have a Olivers estate agent. meerkats
  • Score: -11

9:35pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Helston John says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Must be one of the worst kept secrets ever.
It is great that the so many people are in favour of this. Great news.
No one said it was a secret, they just didn't want to advertise the location to the media and public straight away. Common sales practice with estate agents until things are finalised.

Great news, I'll be in there and I agree with Steve1to7 about the name.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Must be one of the worst kept secrets ever. It is great that the so many people are in favour of this. Great news.[/p][/quote]No one said it was a secret, they just didn't want to advertise the location to the media and public straight away. Common sales practice with estate agents until things are finalised. Great news, I'll be in there and I agree with Steve1to7 about the name. Helston John
  • Score: 0

9:57pm Thu 14 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

I'll be there opening Day 7am for breakfast.
I'll be there opening Day 7am for breakfast. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -12

11:17am Fri 15 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related.

However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration.

What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years.

Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last
Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related. However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration. What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years. Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last telstar1962
  • Score: -7

12:06pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Helston John says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related.

However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration.

What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years.

Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last
Bargains of furniture at cost price, have you ever seen the prices of the furniture in Oliver's to start with, hardly be mega bargains, why do you think they're closing and Williams is remaining. Steve1to7 s suggestion, The Henry Trengrouse, would be far the better name, named after someone that did something important rather than a private family firm that were just out to make money for themselves. and not to repeat the name of a another Oliver's.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related. However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration. What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years. Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last[/p][/quote]Bargains of furniture at cost price, have you ever seen the prices of the furniture in Oliver's to start with, hardly be mega bargains, why do you think they're closing and Williams is remaining. Steve1to7 s suggestion, The Henry Trengrouse, would be far the better name, named after someone that did something important rather than a private family firm that were just out to make money for themselves. and not to repeat the name of a another Oliver's. Helston John
  • Score: 4

7:51am Sat 16 Aug 14

Helston John says...

Telstar a long time ago when regeneration was talked about on here and someone mentioned a Wetherspoons you said they weren't very good and did microwaved food.
Telstar a long time ago when regeneration was talked about on here and someone mentioned a Wetherspoons you said they weren't very good and did microwaved food. Helston John
  • Score: -1

1:35pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Telstar a long time ago when regeneration was talked about on here and someone mentioned a Wetherspoons you said they weren't very good and did microwaved food.
As far as I remember, I think you will find telstar1962 mentioned the Maytree in relation to microwaved food, not Wetherspoons. Besides which, anyone is entitled to change their mind.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Telstar a long time ago when regeneration was talked about on here and someone mentioned a Wetherspoons you said they weren't very good and did microwaved food.[/p][/quote]As far as I remember, I think you will find telstar1962 mentioned the Maytree in relation to microwaved food, not Wetherspoons. Besides which, anyone is entitled to change their mind. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 5

3:31pm Sat 16 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

So, today on a summer's Saturday afternoon in busy Helston Town at 4.15pm, please advise me and my family where I can get reasonable meals, and a pint of beer for Dad...... ?

And when Wetherspoon's open.....?
So, today on a summer's Saturday afternoon in busy Helston Town at 4.15pm, please advise me and my family where I can get reasonable meals, and a pint of beer for Dad...... ? And when Wetherspoon's open.....? telstar1962
  • Score: 7

4:18pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
So, today on a summer's Saturday afternoon in busy Helston Town at 4.15pm, please advise me and my family where I can get reasonable meals, and a pint of beer for Dad...... ?

And when Wetherspoon's open.....?
Pass, next question lol

Bring on Wetherspoons.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: So, today on a summer's Saturday afternoon in busy Helston Town at 4.15pm, please advise me and my family where I can get reasonable meals, and a pint of beer for Dad...... ? And when Wetherspoon's open.....?[/p][/quote]Pass, next question lol Bring on Wetherspoons. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 6

12:51pm Sun 17 Aug 14

helston83 says...

I think it is a real shame that another venue for drink culture is arriving in Helston. Do we not have enough pubs and bars? It's also a sad day to see an established and well respected family business closing down. Of course, it's understandable if Mr Oliver wishes to retire and has no one to take the lead and I'm sure we all wish him the best. But more bars and rubbish food? Really.
I think it is a real shame that another venue for drink culture is arriving in Helston. Do we not have enough pubs and bars? It's also a sad day to see an established and well respected family business closing down. Of course, it's understandable if Mr Oliver wishes to retire and has no one to take the lead and I'm sure we all wish him the best. But more bars and rubbish food? Really. helston83
  • Score: -8

1:43pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

helston83 wrote:
I think it is a real shame that another venue for drink culture is arriving in Helston. Do we not have enough pubs and bars? It's also a sad day to see an established and well respected family business closing down. Of course, it's understandable if Mr Oliver wishes to retire and has no one to take the lead and I'm sure we all wish him the best. But more bars and rubbish food? Really.
Of course we all wish Mr Oliver the best and thank him for running a respectable and good business over the years in Helston, however, what now is the alternative, another empty property? It was of course the owners of Oliver's perogative to sell or not to sell the property to Wetherspoons! one can choose who one sells a property to. Bearing in mind of course the property had been on the market for a while, with no interest shown by chain stores or other large retailers.
[quote][p][bold]helston83[/bold] wrote: I think it is a real shame that another venue for drink culture is arriving in Helston. Do we not have enough pubs and bars? It's also a sad day to see an established and well respected family business closing down. Of course, it's understandable if Mr Oliver wishes to retire and has no one to take the lead and I'm sure we all wish him the best. But more bars and rubbish food? Really.[/p][/quote]Of course we all wish Mr Oliver the best and thank him for running a respectable and good business over the years in Helston, however, what now is the alternative, another empty property? It was of course the owners of Oliver's perogative to sell or not to sell the property to Wetherspoons! one can choose who one sells a property to. Bearing in mind of course the property had been on the market for a while, with no interest shown by chain stores or other large retailers. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 6

6:43pm Sun 17 Aug 14

DeeCee66 says...

Helston John wrote:
telstar1962 wrote:
Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related.

However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration.

What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years.

Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last
Bargains of furniture at cost price, have you ever seen the prices of the furniture in Oliver's to start with, hardly be mega bargains, why do you think they're closing and Williams is remaining. Steve1to7 s suggestion, The Henry Trengrouse, would be far the better name, named after someone that did something important rather than a private family firm that were just out to make money for themselves. and not to repeat the name of a another Oliver's.
Oliver's is a family firm, out to make money for themselves?? Isn't that what all businesses are all about, including Wetherspoons??!!
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related. However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration. What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years. Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last[/p][/quote]Bargains of furniture at cost price, have you ever seen the prices of the furniture in Oliver's to start with, hardly be mega bargains, why do you think they're closing and Williams is remaining. Steve1to7 s suggestion, The Henry Trengrouse, would be far the better name, named after someone that did something important rather than a private family firm that were just out to make money for themselves. and not to repeat the name of a another Oliver's.[/p][/quote]Oliver's is a family firm, out to make money for themselves?? Isn't that what all businesses are all about, including Wetherspoons??!! DeeCee66
  • Score: -6

7:43pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Just another pub chain that Helston doesn't need. With all the charity shops, hairdresser's, estate agents and of course, not forgetting the Made in China shop or the Factory Shop at the bottom of the town, Helston is well and truly dead in my eyes. It's just another nail in the coffin for Helston Town. Just reading the comments from the regular troop of bloggers here makes me sick to my stomach. Helston Town lost it's soul along time ago. Now it's an empty shell of a place. I'm in agreement with helston 83. Helston is dying a very slow death. Tragic!
Just another pub chain that Helston doesn't need. With all the charity shops, hairdresser's, estate agents and of course, not forgetting the Made in China shop or the Factory Shop at the bottom of the town, Helston is well and truly dead in my eyes. It's just another nail in the coffin for Helston Town. Just reading the comments from the regular troop of bloggers here makes me sick to my stomach. Helston Town lost it's soul along time ago. Now it's an empty shell of a place. I'm in agreement with helston 83. Helston is dying a very slow death. Tragic! Eyespy
  • Score: -4

8:03pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Lev Repel says...

Putting things into perspective here, no one commenting on here asked for Wetherspoons to come to Helston and no one having an opinion on here sold their property to Wetherspoons and no one on here works for Cornwall Council planning dept, so why blame people for just having an opinion, because none of those people have any jurisdiction over what happens. How many of those people complaining about others opinions do their shopping in the supermarkets? Telstar says he doesn't shop in the supermarkets, Gill says she doesn't shop in the supermarkets and on the other Wetherspoons article says she'll continue to patronise the Coffee Bean, I don't shop in supermarkets. Instead of criticising others opinions perhaps you should suggest an a feasible alternative solution for a shop that no one else has wanted to buy, remembering of course we all have no control over it.
Putting things into perspective here, no one commenting on here asked for Wetherspoons to come to Helston and no one having an opinion on here sold their property to Wetherspoons and no one on here works for Cornwall Council planning dept, so why blame people for just having an opinion, because none of those people have any jurisdiction over what happens. How many of those people complaining about others opinions do their shopping in the supermarkets? Telstar says he doesn't shop in the supermarkets, Gill says she doesn't shop in the supermarkets and on the other Wetherspoons article says she'll continue to patronise the Coffee Bean, I don't shop in supermarkets. Instead of criticising others opinions perhaps you should suggest an a feasible alternative solution for a shop that no one else has wanted to buy, remembering of course we all have no control over it. Lev Repel
  • Score: 7

9:41pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

I'm placing my hand on my heart right now Helston John as I type this message to you that I don't use supermarkets at all. To be honest with you, I was born in Helston, and i've seen the dramatic changes that have shaped what was once, a bustling, beautiful town centre into a third rate one. We've lost waaaaay too many independent shops thanks to Tesco's opening in 1995, then Sainsbury's a couple of years ago. Add to that Aldi, and the unholy trinity of corporate supermarkets circuling Helston is complete. All I see is more local business's closing, and more coffee shops opening. Some choice. Oliver's the delicatessen that was once a superb shop which I used often turned into another estate agents. It's shameful in my opinion. It seems the only time Helston actually looks clean is the week before Helston Flora Day. Volunteers out with the paint brushes tarting the town up for just one day, the rest of year forget it. No. Helston is no longer a town I could say I'm proud to be a part of. As for the HTC (Helston Town Council), well, I could say more, but I won't.
I'm placing my hand on my heart right now Helston John as I type this message to you that I don't use supermarkets at all. To be honest with you, I was born in Helston, and i've seen the dramatic changes that have shaped what was once, a bustling, beautiful town centre into a third rate one. We've lost waaaaay too many independent shops thanks to Tesco's opening in 1995, then Sainsbury's a couple of years ago. Add to that Aldi, and the unholy trinity of corporate supermarkets circuling Helston is complete. All I see is more local business's closing, and more coffee shops opening. Some choice. Oliver's the delicatessen that was once a superb shop which I used often turned into another estate agents. It's shameful in my opinion. It seems the only time Helston actually looks clean is the week before Helston Flora Day. Volunteers out with the paint brushes tarting the town up for just one day, the rest of year forget it. No. Helston is no longer a town I could say I'm proud to be a part of. As for the HTC (Helston Town Council), well, I could say more, but I won't. Eyespy
  • Score: 3

10:22pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

The local council have a lot to answer for. The supermarket's was a step in regression for Helston and it's economic position, and the numerous schemes set-up by the Town Council often are just band aids that don't really do anything to better or help create new localised business's. Wetherspoons will be just another super bar/coffee shop that Helston really does not need. It may employ 30-45 people, but the vast majority will be on low wages. I for one will not set foot in Wetherspoons. We certainly will not get the Helston of the past back, and the future for Helston certainly isn't bright. My opinions are realistic and honest. That's how I feel. I feel genuine sadness for Helston, and I'm not the only one that feels this.
The local council have a lot to answer for. The supermarket's was a step in regression for Helston and it's economic position, and the numerous schemes set-up by the Town Council often are just band aids that don't really do anything to better or help create new localised business's. Wetherspoons will be just another super bar/coffee shop that Helston really does not need. It may employ 30-45 people, but the vast majority will be on low wages. I for one will not set foot in Wetherspoons. We certainly will not get the Helston of the past back, and the future for Helston certainly isn't bright. My opinions are realistic and honest. That's how I feel. I feel genuine sadness for Helston, and I'm not the only one that feels this. Eyespy
  • Score: -4

10:31pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
And yes I do shop in the supermarkets because they are cheap, who wants to pay ten pounds for a tea towel in an independent shop or three thousand pounds for a coffee table, over the top beer prices and like telstar says, where can you get a cooked meal at four o'clock in the afternoon when the pubs have stopped serving food, the coffee bean has shut and the coffee shops don't do cooked meals and they're not licensed. If people like Gill are stupid enough to carry on patronising the coffee bean when Wetherspoons opens that up to her but other people want a drink with their cooked food and a friendly service, not one that behaves like theyre doing you a favour.
I do not consider I am stupid just because I will still patronise the Coffee Bean after Wetherspoons has opened, it is somewhere I have patronised for many years. I shop regularly in the town centre and the Guildhall market etc in Helston, and when in Mullion I shop in all the local shops and use local tradespeople from Mullion and Porthleven. When in Porthleven, which is more often than not during the daytime, I shop in Costcutters which my loyalty card will prove. I do not like large out of town supermarkets and only visit them on rare occasions if I cannot get a specific item locally.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: And yes I do shop in the supermarkets because they are cheap, who wants to pay ten pounds for a tea towel in an independent shop or three thousand pounds for a coffee table, over the top beer prices and like telstar says, where can you get a cooked meal at four o'clock in the afternoon when the pubs have stopped serving food, the coffee bean has shut and the coffee shops don't do cooked meals and they're not licensed. If people like Gill are stupid enough to carry on patronising the coffee bean when Wetherspoons opens that up to her but other people want a drink with their cooked food and a friendly service, not one that behaves like theyre doing you a favour.[/p][/quote]I do not consider I am stupid just because I will still patronise the Coffee Bean after Wetherspoons has opened, it is somewhere I have patronised for many years. I shop regularly in the town centre and the Guildhall market etc in Helston, and when in Mullion I shop in all the local shops and use local tradespeople from Mullion and Porthleven. When in Porthleven, which is more often than not during the daytime, I shop in Costcutters which my loyalty card will prove. I do not like large out of town supermarkets and only visit them on rare occasions if I cannot get a specific item locally. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 7

8:45am Mon 18 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston John wrote:
And yes I do shop in the supermarkets because they are cheap, who wants to pay ten pounds for a tea towel in an independent shop or three thousand pounds for a coffee table, over the top beer prices and like telstar says, where can you get a cooked meal at four o'clock in the afternoon when the pubs have stopped serving food, the coffee bean has shut and the coffee shops don't do cooked meals and they're not licensed. If people like Gill are stupid enough to carry on patronising the coffee bean when Wetherspoons opens that up to her but other people want a drink with their cooked food and a friendly service, not one that behaves like theyre doing you a favour.
I do not consider I am stupid just because I will still patronise the Coffee Bean after Wetherspoons has opened, it is somewhere I have patronised for many years. I shop regularly in the town centre and the Guildhall market etc in Helston, and when in Mullion I shop in all the local shops and use local tradespeople from Mullion and Porthleven. When in Porthleven, which is more often than not during the daytime, I shop in Costcutters which my loyalty card will prove. I do not like large out of town supermarkets and only visit them on rare occasions if I cannot get a specific item locally.
Are you a second home owner? Because they are killing the towns as well? How do you know I'm not one of your neighbours?
No I am not a second home owner, if I had that amount of money I would be able to afford move to Porthleven. I do not choose to live in Mullion it is down to finances. You cannot be one of my neighbours as you have stated on here you live in Helston.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: And yes I do shop in the supermarkets because they are cheap, who wants to pay ten pounds for a tea towel in an independent shop or three thousand pounds for a coffee table, over the top beer prices and like telstar says, where can you get a cooked meal at four o'clock in the afternoon when the pubs have stopped serving food, the coffee bean has shut and the coffee shops don't do cooked meals and they're not licensed. If people like Gill are stupid enough to carry on patronising the coffee bean when Wetherspoons opens that up to her but other people want a drink with their cooked food and a friendly service, not one that behaves like theyre doing you a favour.[/p][/quote]I do not consider I am stupid just because I will still patronise the Coffee Bean after Wetherspoons has opened, it is somewhere I have patronised for many years. I shop regularly in the town centre and the Guildhall market etc in Helston, and when in Mullion I shop in all the local shops and use local tradespeople from Mullion and Porthleven. When in Porthleven, which is more often than not during the daytime, I shop in Costcutters which my loyalty card will prove. I do not like large out of town supermarkets and only visit them on rare occasions if I cannot get a specific item locally.[/p][/quote]Are you a second home owner? Because they are killing the towns as well? How do you know I'm not one of your neighbours?[/p][/quote]No I am not a second home owner, if I had that amount of money I would be able to afford move to Porthleven. I do not choose to live in Mullion it is down to finances. You cannot be one of my neighbours as you have stated on here you live in Helston. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 5

12:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Helston John wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
The local council have a lot to answer for. The supermarket's was a step in regression for Helston and it's economic position, and the numerous schemes set-up by the Town Council often are just band aids that don't really do anything to better or help create new localised business's. Wetherspoons will be just another super bar/coffee shop that Helston really does not need. It may employ 30-45 people, but the vast majority will be on low wages. I for one will not set foot in Wetherspoons. We certainly will not get the Helston of the past back, and the future for Helston certainly isn't bright. My opinions are realistic and honest. That's how I feel. I feel genuine sadness for Helston, and I'm not the only one that feels this.
I'm no council lover but you can't blame the council for giving the supermarkets permission out of town, if they refused them then they would just take it to appeal and get permission like all the developers do. The fault lies with the government that make it possible for the developers to appeal, and when they win an appeal it costs the council thousands of pounds.
Helston Town Manager and the assistant post was paid for by the cash given to Helston by Tesco and Sainsbury's. Sainsbury's gave more money for both positions than Tesco's did. To be frank, Helston Town Council is just as bad as Cornwall Council, and the government. Supermarket's just erode local independent business's and cause local shops to close. Competition to the supermarket's is a sin. No one can compete against a juggernaut of corporate power like Tesco and Sainsbury's etc... All parties are to blame, not just one authority body. The council's all work in tandem with each other. On the local level, middle level and of course governmental level. Just like the mafia,lol.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: The local council have a lot to answer for. The supermarket's was a step in regression for Helston and it's economic position, and the numerous schemes set-up by the Town Council often are just band aids that don't really do anything to better or help create new localised business's. Wetherspoons will be just another super bar/coffee shop that Helston really does not need. It may employ 30-45 people, but the vast majority will be on low wages. I for one will not set foot in Wetherspoons. We certainly will not get the Helston of the past back, and the future for Helston certainly isn't bright. My opinions are realistic and honest. That's how I feel. I feel genuine sadness for Helston, and I'm not the only one that feels this.[/p][/quote]I'm no council lover but you can't blame the council for giving the supermarkets permission out of town, if they refused them then they would just take it to appeal and get permission like all the developers do. The fault lies with the government that make it possible for the developers to appeal, and when they win an appeal it costs the council thousands of pounds.[/p][/quote]Helston Town Manager and the assistant post was paid for by the cash given to Helston by Tesco and Sainsbury's. Sainsbury's gave more money for both positions than Tesco's did. To be frank, Helston Town Council is just as bad as Cornwall Council, and the government. Supermarket's just erode local independent business's and cause local shops to close. Competition to the supermarket's is a sin. No one can compete against a juggernaut of corporate power like Tesco and Sainsbury's etc... All parties are to blame, not just one authority body. The council's all work in tandem with each other. On the local level, middle level and of course governmental level. Just like the mafia,lol. Eyespy
  • Score: 3

1:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Well. There you go. Nothing like wasting money on petty things. Members from within the council are exceptionaly talented at blowing monies like turning on a tap and wasting water. Does any of this genuinely help Helston, no. It's a cosmetic touch up of Helston, and none of what you said in your message Helston John helps Helston's dilemma in the long run. I'm in agreement with what you said in the two above messages. I've delt with the council in the past, and to be honest, I wouldn't give any of them the time of day. It's all corruption and the usual story that i've heard too many times. I just wish we could remove Helston Town Council altogether. HTC sits like a tumor on Helston's backside. The very people who elect the councillor's should have the full say, not the local mafia in the town council.
Well. There you go. Nothing like wasting money on petty things. Members from within the council are exceptionaly talented at blowing monies like turning on a tap and wasting water. Does any of this genuinely help Helston, no. It's a cosmetic touch up of Helston, and none of what you said in your message Helston John helps Helston's dilemma in the long run. I'm in agreement with what you said in the two above messages. I've delt with the council in the past, and to be honest, I wouldn't give any of them the time of day. It's all corruption and the usual story that i've heard too many times. I just wish we could remove Helston Town Council altogether. HTC sits like a tumor on Helston's backside. The very people who elect the councillor's should have the full say, not the local mafia in the town council. Eyespy
  • Score: -1

10:57am Tue 19 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
DeeCee66 wrote:
Helston John wrote:
telstar1962 wrote:
Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related.

However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration.

What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years.

Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last
Bargains of furniture at cost price, have you ever seen the prices of the furniture in Oliver's to start with, hardly be mega bargains, why do you think they're closing and Williams is remaining. Steve1to7 s suggestion, The Henry Trengrouse, would be far the better name, named after someone that did something important rather than a private family firm that were just out to make money for themselves. and not to repeat the name of a another Oliver's.
Oliver's is a family firm, out to make money for themselves?? Isn't that what all businesses are all about, including Wetherspoons??!!
Hello Krazyitchkatie.
Erm hi?

Not me (why?!?!) but I do agree with DeeCee's point.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DeeCee66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Wetherspoons traditionally name their pubs in connection with the trade or profession carried on at the premises, and since, in this case, the same family have conducted a very good business from there, I hope Oliver's will be used. It's hardly likely to be confused with the Estate Agents, who even not directly connected to the Deli business carried on the Oliver's name. I understand the two families are not related. However, due to historic connections the names of Trengrouse and Furry could also be a consideration. What a bumper Christmas and New Year period it could turn out to be for Helston. Mega bargains with quality furniture being sold at cost price, followed by reasonably priced food and drink being served all day. There may be a couple of pubs who will suffer due to the new Pub, but that will highlight the old outdated business practices of the Pubco's and the like, who continue to fleece the Tenant's and punters in the way in which they have acted for years. Good luck to the staff at Oliver's in finding alternative work, and Helston should be welcoming the fact that a big National brand has arrived at last[/p][/quote]Bargains of furniture at cost price, have you ever seen the prices of the furniture in Oliver's to start with, hardly be mega bargains, why do you think they're closing and Williams is remaining. Steve1to7 s suggestion, The Henry Trengrouse, would be far the better name, named after someone that did something important rather than a private family firm that were just out to make money for themselves. and not to repeat the name of a another Oliver's.[/p][/quote]Oliver's is a family firm, out to make money for themselves?? Isn't that what all businesses are all about, including Wetherspoons??!![/p][/quote]Hello Krazyitchkatie.[/p][/quote]Erm hi? Not me (why?!?!) but I do agree with DeeCee's point. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -5

12:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
I'm sure Wendy RG will like Wetherspoons she always seemed drunk to me rolling out of the red lion.
You are unnecessarily rude.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I'm sure Wendy RG will like Wetherspoons she always seemed drunk to me rolling out of the red lion.[/p][/quote]You are unnecessarily rude. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -1

12:18pm Tue 19 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

You fail in your stalking, I rarely do.
You fail in your stalking, I rarely do. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -3

12:22pm Tue 19 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
You fail in your stalking, I rarely do.
Take a look at a lot of your past comments, I beg to differ.
I have better things to do. Your mild obsession with trolling on here is odd.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: You fail in your stalking, I rarely do.[/p][/quote]Take a look at a lot of your past comments, I beg to differ.[/p][/quote]I have better things to do. Your mild obsession with trolling on here is odd. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -3

12:29pm Tue 19 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
Isn't it good that Eyespy also recognises that the only time the town is cleaned is just before Flora Day. So much for the wonderful BIP.
You think the bip should be cleaning up for everyone year round? The idea was to inspire people to keep it clean once it was clean.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Isn't it good that Eyespy also recognises that the only time the town is cleaned is just before Flora Day. So much for the wonderful BIP.[/p][/quote]You think the bip should be cleaning up for everyone year round? The idea was to inspire people to keep it clean once it was clean. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Tue 19 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
The money the BIP handed out to landlords could have bought some cleaning materials for the town.
It did. It paid for them to clean up their shop fronts so the town looked much cleaner and more presentable overall. And the bip volunteers used their own time and money and cleaning materials to clean the town, except for some paint.
Besides, the council employ street cleaners so surely if we doubled up you'd complain about that?
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: The money the BIP handed out to landlords could have bought some cleaning materials for the town.[/p][/quote]It did. It paid for them to clean up their shop fronts so the town looked much cleaner and more presentable overall. And the bip volunteers used their own time and money and cleaning materials to clean the town, except for some paint. Besides, the council employ street cleaners so surely if we doubled up you'd complain about that? krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -1

2:04pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

I can assure you Helston John I'm not Niall Devonish.
I can assure you Helston John I'm not Niall Devonish. Eyespy
  • Score: 2

3:44pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Lev Repel says...

Helston John wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Well. There you go. Nothing like wasting money on petty things. Members from within the council are exceptionaly talented at blowing monies like turning on a tap and wasting water. Does any of this genuinely help Helston, no. It's a cosmetic touch up of Helston, and none of what you said in your message Helston John helps Helston's dilemma in the long run. I'm in agreement with what you said in the two above messages. I've delt with the council in the past, and to be honest, I wouldn't give any of them the time of day. It's all corruption and the usual story that i've heard too many times. I just wish we could remove Helston Town Council altogether. HTC sits like a tumor on Helston's backside. The very people who elect the councillor's should have the full say, not the local mafia in the town council.
I reckon you're Niall Devonish.
How can you remove Helston TC altogether, if there were no council who would organise the running and maintenance of the play parks, toilets, cleaning, weed control, Rat control, etc, Cornwall Council have already passed these responsibilities off so they wouldn't organise them. Don't think you can generalise with the TC, there are some good Cllrs and some not so good. If you don't want Wetherspoons then why not get everyone that doesn't want it to go to the next council meeting and put your views across, if the TC don't recommend planning permission for it then it goes a little way towards what you want and what you claim many others that think like you want. Do you ever bother to raise your views at a council meeting? I'm quite happy for Wetherspoons to come to Helston but you obviously aren't.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: Well. There you go. Nothing like wasting money on petty things. Members from within the council are exceptionaly talented at blowing monies like turning on a tap and wasting water. Does any of this genuinely help Helston, no. It's a cosmetic touch up of Helston, and none of what you said in your message Helston John helps Helston's dilemma in the long run. I'm in agreement with what you said in the two above messages. I've delt with the council in the past, and to be honest, I wouldn't give any of them the time of day. It's all corruption and the usual story that i've heard too many times. I just wish we could remove Helston Town Council altogether. HTC sits like a tumor on Helston's backside. The very people who elect the councillor's should have the full say, not the local mafia in the town council.[/p][/quote]I reckon you're Niall Devonish.[/p][/quote]How can you remove Helston TC altogether, if there were no council who would organise the running and maintenance of the play parks, toilets, cleaning, weed control, Rat control, etc, Cornwall Council have already passed these responsibilities off so they wouldn't organise them. Don't think you can generalise with the TC, there are some good Cllrs and some not so good. If you don't want Wetherspoons then why not get everyone that doesn't want it to go to the next council meeting and put your views across, if the TC don't recommend planning permission for it then it goes a little way towards what you want and what you claim many others that think like you want. Do you ever bother to raise your views at a council meeting? I'm quite happy for Wetherspoons to come to Helston but you obviously aren't. Lev Repel
  • Score: 6

6:59pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Jirakitt says...

Helston John wrote:
I'm sure Wendy RG will like Wetherspoons she always seemed drunk to me rolling out of the red lion.
SLAP!
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I'm sure Wendy RG will like Wetherspoons she always seemed drunk to me rolling out of the red lion.[/p][/quote]SLAP! Jirakitt
  • Score: -17

9:24pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.
Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual. Eyespy
  • Score: 3

10:32pm Tue 19 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston John wrote:
Jirakitt wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I'm sure Wendy RG will like Wetherspoons she always seemed drunk to me rolling out of the red lion.
SLAP!
Now we know who jirakitt is.
Othe sm websites are available. Apparently.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jirakitt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I'm sure Wendy RG will like Wetherspoons she always seemed drunk to me rolling out of the red lion.[/p][/quote]SLAP![/p][/quote]Now we know who jirakitt is.[/p][/quote]Othe sm websites are available. Apparently. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 7

11:15pm Tue 19 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Eyespy wrote:
Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.
After the consortium that was formed during the last election and the polling station based at the Methodist chapel hardly a fair election for the last town council.
No wonder people won't come forward for election and our town council is so poor.
[quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.[/p][/quote]After the consortium that was formed during the last election and the polling station based at the Methodist chapel hardly a fair election for the last town council. No wonder people won't come forward for election and our town council is so poor. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -5

11:58pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Ooh! Im not a freemason, so they wouldn't want me in the council. The knives would be out ronedgcombe and I would be sent 360 degrees towards the exit. Real change for Helston won't come from HTC, but from the people of Helston. Shame we cannot have a people's council. Real people with a REAL, genuine intrest in what Helston needs and wants as a town.
Ooh! Im not a freemason, so they wouldn't want me in the council. The knives would be out ronedgcombe and I would be sent 360 degrees towards the exit. Real change for Helston won't come from HTC, but from the people of Helston. Shame we cannot have a people's council. Real people with a REAL, genuine intrest in what Helston needs and wants as a town. Eyespy
  • Score: 1

8:57am Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.
After the consortium that was formed during the last election and the polling station based at the Methodist chapel hardly a fair election for the last town council.
No wonder people won't come forward for election and our town council is so poor.
People do come forward for election hence they have full house in the council chamber, some towns/parishes still have vacancies. Do you actually realise that since 2011 you have been saying on this website that the whole council should stand down. You cannot surely think that every single councillor since 2011 has been no good? It is the people of Helston that elect the Councillors democratically, therefore the majority of people presumably are happy with at least one councillor each. Not all Councillors are Freemasons either.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.[/p][/quote]After the consortium that was formed during the last election and the polling station based at the Methodist chapel hardly a fair election for the last town council. No wonder people won't come forward for election and our town council is so poor.[/p][/quote]People do come forward for election hence they have full house in the council chamber, some towns/parishes still have vacancies. Do you actually realise that since 2011 you have been saying on this website that the whole council should stand down. You cannot surely think that every single councillor since 2011 has been no good? It is the people of Helston that elect the Councillors democratically, therefore the majority of people presumably are happy with at least one councillor each. Not all Councillors are Freemasons either. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

12:41pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

You obviously don't know how freemasonary works HelstonJohn. My opinion is very clear. The council is rotten. Helston has been let down dramatically by the TC in the past and the present, and probably in the future. I'm not making excuses either, just pointing out a few facts that's all. Just looking at the current state of Helston now, I can see no future for the town centre at all. Like I said before, too many bakers, estate agents, hairdressers, charity shopsl, coffee shops and banks. If that's progress for for Helston under HTC, then God help us! If the Councillor's are the people of Helston, then why are they spending the money on plastic benches etc.. you stated that BIP and Helston Town Council can't even work together let alone spend the money on what is truly right for Helston. No. I'm sorry, I have no respect for HTC.
You obviously don't know how freemasonary works HelstonJohn. My opinion is very clear. The council is rotten. Helston has been let down dramatically by the TC in the past and the present, and probably in the future. I'm not making excuses either, just pointing out a few facts that's all. Just looking at the current state of Helston now, I can see no future for the town centre at all. Like I said before, too many bakers, estate agents, hairdressers, charity shopsl, coffee shops and banks. If that's progress for for Helston under HTC, then God help us! If the Councillor's are the people of Helston, then why are they spending the money on plastic benches etc.. you stated that BIP and Helston Town Council can't even work together let alone spend the money on what is truly right for Helston. No. I'm sorry, I have no respect for HTC. Eyespy
  • Score: -2

1:24pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
You obviously don't know how freemasonary works HelstonJohn. My opinion is very clear. The council is rotten. Helston has been let down dramatically by the TC in the past and the present, and probably in the future. I'm not making excuses either, just pointing out a few facts that's all. Just looking at the current state of Helston now, I can see no future for the town centre at all. Like I said before, too many bakers, estate agents, hairdressers, charity shopsl, coffee shops and banks. If that's progress for for Helston under HTC, then God help us! If the Councillor's are the people of Helston, then why are they spending the money on plastic benches etc.. you stated that BIP and Helston Town Council can't even work together let alone spend the money on what is truly right for Helston. No. I'm sorry, I have no respect for HTC.
And you still havn't said what's stopping you joining the council and putting it all right, I'm off to join the BIP and put them all right.
Please do. The more the merrier.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: You obviously don't know how freemasonary works HelstonJohn. My opinion is very clear. The council is rotten. Helston has been let down dramatically by the TC in the past and the present, and probably in the future. I'm not making excuses either, just pointing out a few facts that's all. Just looking at the current state of Helston now, I can see no future for the town centre at all. Like I said before, too many bakers, estate agents, hairdressers, charity shopsl, coffee shops and banks. If that's progress for for Helston under HTC, then God help us! If the Councillor's are the people of Helston, then why are they spending the money on plastic benches etc.. you stated that BIP and Helston Town Council can't even work together let alone spend the money on what is truly right for Helston. No. I'm sorry, I have no respect for HTC.[/p][/quote]And you still havn't said what's stopping you joining the council and putting it all right, I'm off to join the BIP and put them all right.[/p][/quote]Please do. The more the merrier. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 5

1:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

I wouldn't inter-mix with such people HelstonJohn. All I can say is...good luck with trying to change the BIP, just another pointless quango. I'm certain you will be sent around the usual circles, and never get anywhere. O'yes. Cornwall Council have the final say, but they're all the same. You can keep em. I've delt with these idiots before. Never again. End of...
I wouldn't inter-mix with such people HelstonJohn. All I can say is...good luck with trying to change the BIP, just another pointless quango. I'm certain you will be sent around the usual circles, and never get anywhere. O'yes. Cornwall Council have the final say, but they're all the same. You can keep em. I've delt with these idiots before. Never again. End of... Eyespy
  • Score: 0

6:05pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Try not to get your knickers in a twist dear HelstonJohn. You'll have a nervous blog breakdown. Maybe I am Ron or Telestar or Krazy or, maybe, just maybe dear Gill? Which one will it be HelstonJohn? I'm not entirely rude about the BIP, just another unwanted, expensive quango that wastes money. Money that could be spent on helping more small business's into Helston. Less hairdressers, bakeries, charity shops and estate agents would be a start. But I'm certain we will see more of the same over the years to come. And now another bar/pub to add with all the other bars and pubs. It's REALLY not good is it HelstonJohn.
Try not to get your knickers in a twist dear HelstonJohn. You'll have a nervous blog breakdown. Maybe I am Ron or Telestar or Krazy or, maybe, just maybe dear Gill? Which one will it be HelstonJohn? I'm not entirely rude about the BIP, just another unwanted, expensive quango that wastes money. Money that could be spent on helping more small business's into Helston. Less hairdressers, bakeries, charity shops and estate agents would be a start. But I'm certain we will see more of the same over the years to come. And now another bar/pub to add with all the other bars and pubs. It's REALLY not good is it HelstonJohn. Eyespy
  • Score: 1

6:36pm Wed 20 Aug 14

KernBear says...

Great news.. :)
Great news.. :) KernBear
  • Score: 4

7:08pm Wed 20 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.
After the consortium that was formed during the last election and the polling station based at the Methodist chapel hardly a fair election for the last town council.
No wonder people won't come forward for election and our town council is so poor.
People do come forward for election hence they have full house in the council chamber, some towns/parishes still have vacancies. Do you actually realise that since 2011 you have been saying on this website that the whole council should stand down. You cannot surely think that every single councillor since 2011 has been no good? It is the people of Helston that elect the Councillors democratically, therefore the majority of people presumably are happy with at least one councillor each. Not all Councillors are Freemasons either.
Yes, Gillian

It's amazing to think that some of the contributors on this news article elect members onto the Helston Town Council, and the electors get what they deserve. ( And judging by some of the imbecilic comments, the representation will not get any better )

And Eyespy, now give us a list of types of businesses you would like to see in Town, rather than the ones you wouldn't
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: Well, like I told you Helston John, I wouldn't waste my energy on any of the councillor's, whether they are bad or supposedly decent in your eyes. The Whetherspoon situation is vertually a fully done deal, and it won't make much difference whether a group of people go to the meeting or not with the TC. Just look at the old Penrose Community Centre. Did the endless public/private meetings with the TC ever stop it's closure? No. The council went ahead with the full intention of closing the place down. Then, spent a decent amount of re-constructing a God ugly new community centre at the Old Cattle Market that cost over a million pounds. I'm sorry to say, but Whetherspoon's is coming to Helston whether people want or not. A done deal as usual.[/p][/quote]After the consortium that was formed during the last election and the polling station based at the Methodist chapel hardly a fair election for the last town council. No wonder people won't come forward for election and our town council is so poor.[/p][/quote]People do come forward for election hence they have full house in the council chamber, some towns/parishes still have vacancies. Do you actually realise that since 2011 you have been saying on this website that the whole council should stand down. You cannot surely think that every single councillor since 2011 has been no good? It is the people of Helston that elect the Councillors democratically, therefore the majority of people presumably are happy with at least one councillor each. Not all Councillors are Freemasons either.[/p][/quote]Yes, Gillian It's amazing to think that some of the contributors on this news article elect members onto the Helston Town Council, and the electors get what they deserve. ( And judging by some of the imbecilic comments, the representation will not get any better ) And Eyespy, now give us a list of types of businesses you would like to see in Town, rather than the ones you wouldn't telstar1962
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8:31am Thu 21 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Dear John
You need to pay more attention to all the words in my comments
I used the word 'some' twice
This may indicate to the reader that means not 'all'
I am aware that GZM cannot vote in HTC elections because of the 3 mile exclusion zone, so the numbers are narrowed down somewhat to include you lol
Dear John You need to pay more attention to all the words in my comments I used the word 'some' twice This may indicate to the reader that means not 'all' I am aware that GZM cannot vote in HTC elections because of the 3 mile exclusion zone, so the numbers are narrowed down somewhat to include you lol telstar1962
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