Stinky scenes in Falmouth as rubbish strewn across streets

Stinky scenes in Falmouth as rubbish strewn across streets

Stinky scenes in Falmouth as rubbish strewn across streets

First published in Cornwall

The seagulls have been at it again, with early morning risers in Falmouth being treated to this scene of rubbish strewn streets due to unsecured bins and litter louts. The picture by Nicola Smith shows Killigrew Street at 6.30am, with Nicola asking: "What is being done to prevent not cure this persistent problem?" What do you think, how can this issue be solved?

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11:42am Tue 29 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading!
Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading! krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -11

12:19pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Looks like a fair bit of takeaway rubbish there, which is particularly appealing to seagulls. Make the takeaways include anti-littering messages on their packaging and in/outside their outlets. Make them pay a larger share of rates until the situation improves. Or make them employ/contribute towards litter wardens.
Looks like a fair bit of takeaway rubbish there, which is particularly appealing to seagulls. Make the takeaways include anti-littering messages on their packaging and in/outside their outlets. Make them pay a larger share of rates until the situation improves. Or make them employ/contribute towards litter wardens. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 6

12:47pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lev Repel says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading!
Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP.

I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders.
I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do.
I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading![/p][/quote]Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP. I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders. I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do. I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins. Lev Repel
  • Score: 15

12:50pm Tue 29 Jul 14

WickWonder says...

I wrote a massive paragraph saying why anti-littering messages on packaging won't happen/won't work. But quite frankly, it's a silly suggestion and doesn't even warrant a response.

Educate people, provide sources for big sheets to cover rubbish. Or promote the fact the council has black covers for rubbish. Easy.
I wrote a massive paragraph saying why anti-littering messages on packaging won't happen/won't work. But quite frankly, it's a silly suggestion and doesn't even warrant a response. Educate people, provide sources for big sheets to cover rubbish. Or promote the fact the council has black covers for rubbish. Easy. WickWonder
  • Score: 0

12:51pm Tue 29 Jul 14

WickWonder says...

This is on Killigrew outside a private residence, NOT outside a takeaway. FYI
This is on Killigrew outside a private residence, NOT outside a takeaway. FYI WickWonder
  • Score: 3

12:57pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

WickWonder wrote:
I wrote a massive paragraph saying why anti-littering messages on packaging won't happen/won't work. But quite frankly, it's a silly suggestion and doesn't even warrant a response.

Educate people, provide sources for big sheets to cover rubbish. Or promote the fact the council has black covers for rubbish. Easy.
It's not a total answer of course, but silly? I think not. It could be part of the education process that you yourself call for.
The "Smoking Kills" etc on ciggie packets is not the only effort made to reduce smoking levels but part of a wider campaign of education.
[quote][p][bold]WickWonder[/bold] wrote: I wrote a massive paragraph saying why anti-littering messages on packaging won't happen/won't work. But quite frankly, it's a silly suggestion and doesn't even warrant a response. Educate people, provide sources for big sheets to cover rubbish. Or promote the fact the council has black covers for rubbish. Easy.[/p][/quote]It's not a total answer of course, but silly? I think not. It could be part of the education process that you yourself call for. The "Smoking Kills" etc on ciggie packets is not the only effort made to reduce smoking levels but part of a wider campaign of education. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 5

1:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

WickWonder wrote:
This is on Killigrew outside a private residence, NOT outside a takeaway. FYI
Do we really have to confine our debate to that precise photo when general littering in the town centre (a lot of it from takeaways) is such a continual problem?
[quote][p][bold]WickWonder[/bold] wrote: This is on Killigrew outside a private residence, NOT outside a takeaway. FYI[/p][/quote]Do we really have to confine our debate to that precise photo when general littering in the town centre (a lot of it from takeaways) is such a continual problem? Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 9

1:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Lev Repel wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading!
Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP.

I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders.
I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do.
I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.
Any excuse to be negative about BIP.

For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.
[quote][p][bold]Lev Repel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading![/p][/quote]Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP. I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders. I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do. I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.[/p][/quote]Any excuse to be negative about BIP. For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -16

1:11pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Pendennisracer says...

I'll vouch that was domestic rubbish, it was the same scene the other side of the road at 9pm last night.

It's not the take aways to blame, the food was obviously taken home - would be easy to identify the 'bag owners' as no doubt envelopes etc will be in there too.

Whilst I'm not a greenie but it bugs me how much recyclable stuff is in these bags - seems to be a pattern, can't be bothered with sorting waste or putting it out at reasonable times or with coverings.

Final gripe - the road sweeper came around yesterday, day before rubbish collections - surely obvious for it to go around after the bin lorries?
I'll vouch that was domestic rubbish, it was the same scene the other side of the road at 9pm last night. It's not the take aways to blame, the food was obviously taken home - would be easy to identify the 'bag owners' as no doubt envelopes etc will be in there too. Whilst I'm not a greenie but it bugs me how much recyclable stuff is in these bags - seems to be a pattern, can't be bothered with sorting waste or putting it out at reasonable times or with coverings. Final gripe - the road sweeper came around yesterday, day before rubbish collections - surely obvious for it to go around after the bin lorries? Pendennisracer
  • Score: 1

1:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Pendennisracer says...

A couple of comments were made about covers or seagull proof bags: you can get a tarpaulin from Trago for less than £2.
I've done this but unfortunately the rubbish collectors are too busy to place the rock/brick back on top of the tarp, so several have blown away. Tie a brick to the tarp and only 1 or 2 get thrown into the lorry each year - 'too late, it's in there now'.
A couple of comments were made about covers or seagull proof bags: you can get a tarpaulin from Trago for less than £2. I've done this but unfortunately the rubbish collectors are too busy to place the rock/brick back on top of the tarp, so several have blown away. Tie a brick to the tarp and only 1 or 2 get thrown into the lorry each year - 'too late, it's in there now'. Pendennisracer
  • Score: 2

1:27pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Pendennisracer wrote:
A couple of comments were made about covers or seagull proof bags: you can get a tarpaulin from Trago for less than £2.
I've done this but unfortunately the rubbish collectors are too busy to place the rock/brick back on top of the tarp, so several have blown away. Tie a brick to the tarp and only 1 or 2 get thrown into the lorry each year - 'too late, it's in there now'.
Ok! I accept this bit of rubbish is not all down to the takeaways. But if the council won't provide proper bins, I don't think this problem will ever be resolved. I've bought my own wheelie bin but I realise a lot of people won't be prepared to do that. Eventually, the Council will have to bite the bullet and fork out.
[quote][p][bold]Pendennisracer[/bold] wrote: A couple of comments were made about covers or seagull proof bags: you can get a tarpaulin from Trago for less than £2. I've done this but unfortunately the rubbish collectors are too busy to place the rock/brick back on top of the tarp, so several have blown away. Tie a brick to the tarp and only 1 or 2 get thrown into the lorry each year - 'too late, it's in there now'.[/p][/quote]Ok! I accept this bit of rubbish is not all down to the takeaways. But if the council won't provide proper bins, I don't think this problem will ever be resolved. I've bought my own wheelie bin but I realise a lot of people won't be prepared to do that. Eventually, the Council will have to bite the bullet and fork out. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 19

1:57pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Korban Dallas says...

Hi I live on killigrew street this happens all up and down killigrew. It's just people trying to get there bags collected by the bin men. We have been through 5 bins this year due to the seagulls and two blankets, is cornwall council going to do something about the seagull problem. I don't think it's the residents fault that when they put there rubbish bins out that within 10 minutes the seagulls have ripped them up and spread them down the street. Honestly I'm fed up and with the council would do something about these pests.
Hi I live on killigrew street this happens all up and down killigrew. It's just people trying to get there bags collected by the bin men. We have been through 5 bins this year due to the seagulls and two blankets, is cornwall council going to do something about the seagull problem. I don't think it's the residents fault that when they put there rubbish bins out that within 10 minutes the seagulls have ripped them up and spread them down the street. Honestly I'm fed up and with the council would do something about these pests. Korban Dallas
  • Score: 24

3:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lev Repel says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
Lev Repel wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading!
Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP.

I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders.
I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do.
I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.
Any excuse to be negative about BIP.

For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.
Paranoia, it's not any excuse to be negative about the BIP, it's my personal thoughts that judging by your comment it makes me wonder if BIP members have childish attitudes and is that one of the reasons we have a childish logo that cost £5,000, that money could have provided gull proof bags for rubbish throughout Helston, that would have improved the town and encouraged more visitors.
If you a bit more observant you might care to notice that Peter Falmouth's comments have been removed across the website which points to me he's been banned, so pointless you childishly trying to incite yet another argument with him.
More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here.
Perhaps all the Cornwall Councillors should use their community chest money and provide free gull proof bags in Falmouth. Perhaps that should have been a debate at election time.
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lev Repel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading![/p][/quote]Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP. I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders. I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do. I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.[/p][/quote]Any excuse to be negative about BIP. For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.[/p][/quote]Paranoia, it's not any excuse to be negative about the BIP, it's my personal thoughts that judging by your comment it makes me wonder if BIP members have childish attitudes and is that one of the reasons we have a childish logo that cost £5,000, that money could have provided gull proof bags for rubbish throughout Helston, that would have improved the town and encouraged more visitors. If you a bit more observant you might care to notice that Peter Falmouth's comments have been removed across the website which points to me he's been banned, so pointless you childishly trying to incite yet another argument with him. More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here. Perhaps all the Cornwall Councillors should use their community chest money and provide free gull proof bags in Falmouth. Perhaps that should have been a debate at election time. Lev Repel
  • Score: 10

3:09pm Tue 29 Jul 14

rmcclarity says...

As the older readers will remember, many years ago, we all had METAL bins - no problem from the gulls. They stayed over the sea and around the coast. It was only when some council, local or otherwise decried we had to use plastic bags that this problem started. You can not blame the Gulls, when some of the public give them a easy meal. A previous comment said "Within 10 minutes when the bins were out, they were ripped up". Not bins but bags I think !!.
As the older readers will remember, many years ago, we all had METAL bins - no problem from the gulls. They stayed over the sea and around the coast. It was only when some council, local or otherwise decried we had to use plastic bags that this problem started. You can not blame the Gulls, when some of the public give them a easy meal. A previous comment said "Within 10 minutes when the bins were out, they were ripped up". Not bins but bags I think !!. rmcclarity
  • Score: 25

3:11pm Tue 29 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Lev Repel wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Lev Repel wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading!
Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP.

I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders.
I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do.
I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.
Any excuse to be negative about BIP.

For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.
Paranoia, it's not any excuse to be negative about the BIP, it's my personal thoughts that judging by your comment it makes me wonder if BIP members have childish attitudes and is that one of the reasons we have a childish logo that cost £5,000, that money could have provided gull proof bags for rubbish throughout Helston, that would have improved the town and encouraged more visitors.
If you a bit more observant you might care to notice that Peter Falmouth's comments have been removed across the website which points to me he's been banned, so pointless you childishly trying to incite yet another argument with him.
More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here.
Perhaps all the Cornwall Councillors should use their community chest money and provide free gull proof bags in Falmouth. Perhaps that should have been a debate at election time.
Again, my comments and personal opinions on here are in no way related to the thoughts and opinions of the Hbip.

I had noticed some of peters comments removed, but not all.

FYI, the bip logo was created by the marketing group of the hbip and it was before my time. Plus the money used for the logo could not've been used for rubbish bags/bins as the council would only allow it to be used for specific marketing and branding of the town. Although I'm not sure how gull-proof bags are a tourist attraction lol!

'More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here' - ah sorry I didnt realise my personal time should also be taken up with community concerns as a volunteer...

I'm fed up of all the negativity to be honest, and really wanted to find out what is behind peters aggressiveness, it wasn't a childish incitation - it was a genuine want to understand.
[quote][p][bold]Lev Repel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lev Repel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading![/p][/quote]Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP. I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders. I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do. I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.[/p][/quote]Any excuse to be negative about BIP. For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.[/p][/quote]Paranoia, it's not any excuse to be negative about the BIP, it's my personal thoughts that judging by your comment it makes me wonder if BIP members have childish attitudes and is that one of the reasons we have a childish logo that cost £5,000, that money could have provided gull proof bags for rubbish throughout Helston, that would have improved the town and encouraged more visitors. If you a bit more observant you might care to notice that Peter Falmouth's comments have been removed across the website which points to me he's been banned, so pointless you childishly trying to incite yet another argument with him. More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here. Perhaps all the Cornwall Councillors should use their community chest money and provide free gull proof bags in Falmouth. Perhaps that should have been a debate at election time.[/p][/quote]Again, my comments and personal opinions on here are in no way related to the thoughts and opinions of the Hbip. I had noticed some of peters comments removed, but not all. FYI, the bip logo was created by the marketing group of the hbip and it was before my time. Plus the money used for the logo could not've been used for rubbish bags/bins as the council would only allow it to be used for specific marketing and branding of the town. Although I'm not sure how gull-proof bags are a tourist attraction lol! 'More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here' - ah sorry I didnt realise my personal time should also be taken up with community concerns as a volunteer... I'm fed up of all the negativity to be honest, and really wanted to find out what is behind peters aggressiveness, it wasn't a childish incitation - it was a genuine want to understand. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -20

3:35pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Lev Repel says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
Lev Repel wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Lev Repel wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading!
Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP.

I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders.
I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do.
I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.
Any excuse to be negative about BIP.

For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.
Paranoia, it's not any excuse to be negative about the BIP, it's my personal thoughts that judging by your comment it makes me wonder if BIP members have childish attitudes and is that one of the reasons we have a childish logo that cost £5,000, that money could have provided gull proof bags for rubbish throughout Helston, that would have improved the town and encouraged more visitors.
If you a bit more observant you might care to notice that Peter Falmouth's comments have been removed across the website which points to me he's been banned, so pointless you childishly trying to incite yet another argument with him.
More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here.
Perhaps all the Cornwall Councillors should use their community chest money and provide free gull proof bags in Falmouth. Perhaps that should have been a debate at election time.
Again, my comments and personal opinions on here are in no way related to the thoughts and opinions of the Hbip.

I had noticed some of peters comments removed, but not all.

FYI, the bip logo was created by the marketing group of the hbip and it was before my time. Plus the money used for the logo could not've been used for rubbish bags/bins as the council would only allow it to be used for specific marketing and branding of the town. Although I'm not sure how gull-proof bags are a tourist attraction lol!

'More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here' - ah sorry I didnt realise my personal time should also be taken up with community concerns as a volunteer...

I'm fed up of all the negativity to be honest, and really wanted to find out what is behind peters aggressiveness, it wasn't a childish incitation - it was a genuine want to understand.
I've read the criteria of exactly what the section 106 money can be utilised for and it was not limited to marketing and branding, and what is left for public realm money would have been £5,000 better off if the logo had been skipped.
Whatever happened to the fancy pavement idea!!!!!

At the end of the day rubbish is the responsibility of each individual, if we didn't have gulls we'd probably be like inner cities and have foxes or rats, everyone needs to take responsibility, the wildlife is not going to disappear.
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lev Repel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lev Repel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Oh no! 'Peter Falmouth', quick! Your town is degrading![/p][/quote]Very childish, and non constructive Katie, I think, from someone supposed to be representing Helstons BIP. Makes me wonder about the future of the BIP. I agree with LBFS, and perhaps fines should be issued by Cornwall Council as they are going to be in Helston, to repeat offenders. I think all takeaway food outlets should be obliged to supply a bin outside the premises and be responsible for emptying their own bins and doing litter cleans in the immediate vicinity as McDonalds do. I also think the gull proof bags should be supplied free to all, they are very cheap when purchased in bulk, nothing like the price of supplying bins.[/p][/quote]Any excuse to be negative about BIP. For the record (again) I am not on here representing the views or opinions of HBIP, I am me with my own personal opinions and I'd love for Peter Falmouth to direct his nasty comments to his mirror instead of everyone else on here. Hence the bait to see what his thoughts are on this story.[/p][/quote]Paranoia, it's not any excuse to be negative about the BIP, it's my personal thoughts that judging by your comment it makes me wonder if BIP members have childish attitudes and is that one of the reasons we have a childish logo that cost £5,000, that money could have provided gull proof bags for rubbish throughout Helston, that would have improved the town and encouraged more visitors. If you a bit more observant you might care to notice that Peter Falmouth's comments have been removed across the website which points to me he's been banned, so pointless you childishly trying to incite yet another argument with him. More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here. Perhaps all the Cornwall Councillors should use their community chest money and provide free gull proof bags in Falmouth. Perhaps that should have been a debate at election time.[/p][/quote]Again, my comments and personal opinions on here are in no way related to the thoughts and opinions of the Hbip. I had noticed some of peters comments removed, but not all. FYI, the bip logo was created by the marketing group of the hbip and it was before my time. Plus the money used for the logo could not've been used for rubbish bags/bins as the council would only allow it to be used for specific marketing and branding of the town. Although I'm not sure how gull-proof bags are a tourist attraction lol! 'More time thinking what could improve the rubbish problem in Falmouth and Helston would be more constructive than inciting arguments on here' - ah sorry I didnt realise my personal time should also be taken up with community concerns as a volunteer... I'm fed up of all the negativity to be honest, and really wanted to find out what is behind peters aggressiveness, it wasn't a childish incitation - it was a genuine want to understand.[/p][/quote]I've read the criteria of exactly what the section 106 money can be utilised for and it was not limited to marketing and branding, and what is left for public realm money would have been £5,000 better off if the logo had been skipped. Whatever happened to the fancy pavement idea!!!!! At the end of the day rubbish is the responsibility of each individual, if we didn't have gulls we'd probably be like inner cities and have foxes or rats, everyone needs to take responsibility, the wildlife is not going to disappear. Lev Repel
  • Score: 6

3:38pm Tue 29 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

I didnt say the entire amount was limited to marketing. I said the council decided what the money was split up into and to be used for. So it wasnt a matter of dropping the logo and buying bin bags (totally unsustainable use of the money so wouldn't have been approved).

But totally agree with your second point.
I didnt say the entire amount was limited to marketing. I said the council decided what the money was split up into and to be used for. So it wasnt a matter of dropping the logo and buying bin bags (totally unsustainable use of the money so wouldn't have been approved). But totally agree with your second point. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -10

3:48pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Korban Dallas says...

rmcclarity wrote:
As the older readers will remember, many years ago, we all had METAL bins - no problem from the gulls. They stayed over the sea and around the coast. It was only when some council, local or otherwise decried we had to use plastic bags that this problem started. You can not blame the Gulls, when some of the public give them a easy meal. A previous comment said "Within 10 minutes when the bins were out, they were ripped up". Not bins but bags I think !!.
Yes I did mean bags but all so are bins get damaged. But I do think metal bins would be a great idea.
[quote][p][bold]rmcclarity[/bold] wrote: As the older readers will remember, many years ago, we all had METAL bins - no problem from the gulls. They stayed over the sea and around the coast. It was only when some council, local or otherwise decried we had to use plastic bags that this problem started. You can not blame the Gulls, when some of the public give them a easy meal. A previous comment said "Within 10 minutes when the bins were out, they were ripped up". Not bins but bags I think !!.[/p][/quote]Yes I did mean bags but all so are bins get damaged. But I do think metal bins would be a great idea. Korban Dallas
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4:34pm Tue 29 Jul 14

molesworth says...

It's not rocket science - my two plastic dustbins work well. Never had a problem with gulls.
It's not rocket science - my two plastic dustbins work well. Never had a problem with gulls. molesworth
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5:16pm Tue 29 Jul 14

ucsweb says...

Two solutions.
Cull the gulls to reduce the numbers and the cull the idiots that leave their rubbish uncovered.
Two solutions. Cull the gulls to reduce the numbers and the cull the idiots that leave their rubbish uncovered. ucsweb
  • Score: 10

7:17pm Tue 29 Jul 14

sandy54 says...

why cant people cover the bags its discusting every week ,or come on council we all pay council tax so supply bins or weely bins
why cant people cover the bags its discusting every week ,or come on council we all pay council tax so supply bins or weely bins sandy54
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8:37pm Tue 29 Jul 14

juwhite says...

Unfortunately we are not allowed wheelie bins well not big ones anyway!! The reason been that they cannot be mechanically lifted into the refuse vans and the refuse collectors are not allowed to lift the bins out of them for health and safety reasons!!! I can remember when the collectors used to come into our garden and collect our rubbish bins and we never had the mess then that there is now. It is the same on recycling days as the stuff blows out of the bags/containers down the road and then after collection the bags/containers get blown away. Mind you I have to say that our collector does an absolutely fantastic job as we often have rubbish strewn around our access lane mainly due to the HMOs whose residents tend to put the bins out uncovered hence rubbish everywhere. He goes beyond the call of duty and tries to clean the area as much as possible even though its not really his responsibility. I have also had good response from the Environmental Team at the Council. The Councillors, who claim so much in expenses need to rethink the idea. In other counties they have wheelie bins one for ALL recycling, yes all recycling which is then sorted by the collectors and one for all the refuse. Hence clean streets. The other problem is where we used to know the collector would come between a certain time nowadays they come at any time which also results in more rubbish.
Unfortunately we are not allowed wheelie bins well not big ones anyway!! The reason been that they cannot be mechanically lifted into the refuse vans and the refuse collectors are not allowed to lift the bins out of them for health and safety reasons!!! I can remember when the collectors used to come into our garden and collect our rubbish bins and we never had the mess then that there is now. It is the same on recycling days as the stuff blows out of the bags/containers down the road and then after collection the bags/containers get blown away. Mind you I have to say that our collector does an absolutely fantastic job as we often have rubbish strewn around our access lane mainly due to the HMOs whose residents tend to put the bins out uncovered hence rubbish everywhere. He goes beyond the call of duty and tries to clean the area as much as possible even though its not really his responsibility. I have also had good response from the Environmental Team at the Council. The Councillors, who claim so much in expenses need to rethink the idea. In other counties they have wheelie bins one for ALL recycling, yes all recycling which is then sorted by the collectors and one for all the refuse. Hence clean streets. The other problem is where we used to know the collector would come between a certain time nowadays they come at any time which also results in more rubbish. juwhite
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8:02am Wed 30 Jul 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

This thread is rubbish.
This thread is rubbish. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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8:44am Wed 30 Jul 14

Candy Atherton says...

As the local Cornwall Councillor I used my Community Chest money to buy seagull proof bags for every house that wanted one in my ward. Evidence is they have made a huge difference as I have seen for myself but where we people just put their rubbish outside unprotected gulls swarm and have a gulls banquet. In the last few weeks Falmouth Town Council, the university and I have paid for twice daily sweeps of the area as the students leave and I toured my ward to ensure it was kept as clean as possible.

A number of residents have said it is improved. The cleaning team were alerted yesterday and promised to clean up around Killigrew Street.
As the local Cornwall Councillor I used my Community Chest money to buy seagull proof bags for every house that wanted one in my ward. Evidence is they have made a huge difference as I have seen for myself but where we people just put their rubbish outside unprotected gulls swarm and have a gulls banquet. In the last few weeks Falmouth Town Council, the university and I have paid for twice daily sweeps of the area as the students leave and I toured my ward to ensure it was kept as clean as possible. A number of residents have said it is improved. The cleaning team were alerted yesterday and promised to clean up around Killigrew Street. Candy Atherton
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2:39pm Wed 30 Jul 14

ElevenEleven says...

It's a shame that Falmouth's other Cornwall Councillors aren't so proactive as Candy Atherton.

The gull proof bags definitely work where used - perhaps we could make sure all landlords/lettings agents inform residents of the necessity to use these where they have been provided.

I noticed on the local news the other day that in Plymouth they have been replacing seagull eggs with dummys during breeding season which is one legal way the numbers of these birds can be controlled.
It's a shame that Falmouth's other Cornwall Councillors aren't so proactive as Candy Atherton. The gull proof bags definitely work where used - perhaps we could make sure all landlords/lettings agents inform residents of the necessity to use these where they have been provided. I noticed on the local news the other day that in Plymouth they have been replacing seagull eggs with dummys during breeding season which is one legal way the numbers of these birds can be controlled. ElevenEleven
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2:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

I noticed in the Telegraph this week they were blaming delinquent seagull behaviour on them getting drunk by eating flying ants! So perhaps we should stop blaming the seagulls and instead try to help them...? lol
I noticed in the Telegraph this week they were blaming delinquent seagull behaviour on them getting drunk by eating flying ants! So perhaps we should stop blaming the seagulls and instead try to help them...? lol krazyitchkatie
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8:05pm Wed 30 Jul 14

treving42 says...

Can't wait for the new 3 week rubbish pick up ruling to come into effect (and it will) that will starve them pesky seagulls out - 3 weeks of stored domestic trash might be a tad smelly but worth it I think and rats make nice pets so my doctor reckons.
Can't wait for the new 3 week rubbish pick up ruling to come into effect (and it will) that will starve them pesky seagulls out - 3 weeks of stored domestic trash might be a tad smelly but worth it I think and rats make nice pets so my doctor reckons. treving42
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7:12am Mon 4 Aug 14

Helston John says...

treving42 wrote:
Can't wait for the new 3 week rubbish pick up ruling to come into effect (and it will) that will starve them pesky seagulls out - 3 weeks of stored domestic trash might be a tad smelly but worth it I think and rats make nice pets so my doctor reckons.
There won't be any three weekly pick up at all, because to do that the council would be obliged to supply full size wheelie bins, and they can't afford to, that's why it didn't even go fortnightly pick up. And the cheapest contractor for collection don't have all lorries with pick up gear facilities on them. And With government elections coming up and then in a few years more council elections!!.
[quote][p][bold]treving42[/bold] wrote: Can't wait for the new 3 week rubbish pick up ruling to come into effect (and it will) that will starve them pesky seagulls out - 3 weeks of stored domestic trash might be a tad smelly but worth it I think and rats make nice pets so my doctor reckons.[/p][/quote]There won't be any three weekly pick up at all, because to do that the council would be obliged to supply full size wheelie bins, and they can't afford to, that's why it didn't even go fortnightly pick up. And the cheapest contractor for collection don't have all lorries with pick up gear facilities on them. And With government elections coming up and then in a few years more council elections!!. Helston John
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