Pants Cancer pensioner pays price over parking penalties

This is The West Country: Pants Cancer pensioner pays price over parking penalties Pants Cancer pensioner pays price over parking penalties

The founder of a Falmouth charity has been left hundreds of pounds out of pocket after being hit with parking fines for using the loading bays outside her town centre shop.

Jeanette Preston, founder of the Pants Cancer charity, has collected £796 in fines for parking in the spaces opposite two of her outlets in Webber Street, and says she believes she has been victimised and traffic wardens should be more willing to use discretion.

She said: “The first time I was ticketed, I told the male traffic warden ‘I’m a business, I should be allowed to unload. I’m a business woman, I’m entitled to park here’, and he said ‘no you can’t.’Founder opf Pants

“A charity is a business. He was either being ageist or sexist, and can’t accept me as a business woman. He actually put the ticket on the car in front of me.”

Jeanette said another time she was fined while unloading outside her shop for going just one minute over the five minute unloading limit, and the warden stood by the car timing her.

She said: “I can’t move it any quicker. I’ve got two shops, I should have ten minutes, not five.

“[The traffic warden] said ‘it’s six minutes now’ and put a ticket on.”

She added: “Someone said you have got to prove you’re loading and unloading, so leave the boot open.

“But if I leave the boot open it would be a free for all.”

Jeanette at first said she was willing to fight the fines, and even go to prison for it, but that she received a notice warning that if she did not pay her property could be forfeited.

As she was told this at a time when her husband was ill, she worried about the stress that it would put on him, and decided she would have to pay instead.

She said: “I’ve paid up, it’s come out of my pension, I’ve paid the fine as a pensioner.
“Somebody suggested putting a collection box for the fine in the shop.

“A lot of people in Falmouth have been supporting me, because of the charity and because I’m a cancer survivor.”

A Cornwall Council spokesperson said: “The council is unable to comment on individual cases. However loading bays are for the use of all vehicles delivering or collecting goods from all the local businesses and if an individual leaves their vehicles there for longer than the designated time it creates problems for people or companies delivering to other local businesses and members of the public who are trying to pick up goods.

“Civil parking enforcement officers are required to enforce the parking restrictions that are in place and only take enforcement action against those that contravene them.

“Members of the public have the opportunity to make formal representations against the penalty charge notice which was issued by the civil parking enforcement officer. If they are not satisfied with the decision they can take the case to independent adjudication at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.”

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7:37am Wed 2 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

Ok it's a shame she's suffered illness, but so have millions of people in this country and if they were all able to break the law to suit them where would we be. This claim with people that they only have a pension to pay with doesn't seem to stop them affording to run a car.
We never see any parking enforcement officers in Porthleven.
Ok it's a shame she's suffered illness, but so have millions of people in this country and if they were all able to break the law to suit them where would we be. This claim with people that they only have a pension to pay with doesn't seem to stop them affording to run a car. We never see any parking enforcement officers in Porthleven. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: 4

9:39am Wed 2 Jul 14

jgrumpy says...

I can't believe I've just read all that. This lady is a pillar of the community doing a wonderful job for a very worthwhile cause. That some council jobsworth can be so vindictive beggars belief. Yet, apparently , CC vans can park on double yellows and parking wardens in St Ives can park in disabled bays. Double standards at work here, as ever when dealing with useless bureaucrats.
I can't believe I've just read all that. This lady is a pillar of the community doing a wonderful job for a very worthwhile cause. That some council jobsworth can be so vindictive beggars belief. Yet, apparently , CC vans can park on double yellows and parking wardens in St Ives can park in disabled bays. Double standards at work here, as ever when dealing with useless bureaucrats. jgrumpy
  • Score: -1

2:29pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Whether or not it is a good thing or bad thing, Cornwall Council parking enforcement officers officially are allowed no discretion, they are only doing the job for which they are employed.

The lady is doing a wonderful job with the charity, it is a great shame the parking bays cannot be as in Helston, with free 30 mins parking available for any reason. Five minutes would appear a very short time in which to load and unload to and from inside a shop. Most time limited loading bays I have ever seen, have ten minutes allocation.
However, personally, if I was in that situation, having been fined once, I would make sure I did not continue to collect fines totalling £796!

With reference to Mark Porthlevens post, there was a parking enforcement officer in Porthleven last Sunday in Fore Street.
Whether or not it is a good thing or bad thing, Cornwall Council parking enforcement officers officially are allowed no discretion, they are only doing the job for which they are employed. The lady is doing a wonderful job with the charity, it is a great shame the parking bays cannot be as in Helston, with free 30 mins parking available for any reason. Five minutes would appear a very short time in which to load and unload to and from inside a shop. Most time limited loading bays I have ever seen, have ten minutes allocation. However, personally, if I was in that situation, having been fined once, I would make sure I did not continue to collect fines totalling £796! With reference to Mark Porthlevens post, there was a parking enforcement officer in Porthleven last Sunday in Fore Street. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 18

5:25pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Cyber Pasty says...

I guess in the time it takes to write a ticket a person loading would back with the car in that time. The warden can not go chasing people around their business asking are you going to be another five minutes. Other company's use that loading bay too and probably get annoyed seeing that car there. Plus the ageist & sexist card is bad form. Just accept it.
I guess in the time it takes to write a ticket a person loading would back with the car in that time. The warden can not go chasing people around their business asking are you going to be another five minutes. Other company's use that loading bay too and probably get annoyed seeing that car there. Plus the ageist & sexist card is bad form. Just accept it. Cyber Pasty
  • Score: 11

5:40pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

I never read that bit about the £796 before, sorry but I wouldn't pay towards that charity it would make me wonder where my moneys going. How does she afford two shops on a pension?
I never read that bit about the £796 before, sorry but I wouldn't pay towards that charity it would make me wonder where my moneys going. How does she afford two shops on a pension? Mark Porthleven
  • Score: -1

10:23am Thu 3 Jul 14

meerkats says...

could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.
could she not get someone to help her unload and save time. meerkats
  • Score: 6

5:19pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

meerkats wrote:
could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.
I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.[/p][/quote]I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: 9

6:55pm Thu 3 Jul 14

meerkats says...

Mark Porthleven wrote:
meerkats wrote:
could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.
I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.
well she obviously hasnt
[quote][p][bold]Mark Porthleven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.[/p][/quote]I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.[/p][/quote]well she obviously hasnt meerkats
  • Score: 3

7:09pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

meerkats wrote:
Mark Porthleven wrote:
meerkats wrote:
could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.
I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.
well she obviously hasnt
Has it ever occurred to you she might not have anyone to help, she mentions in the article about her husband not being well. And other people might be at work. If someone comes to help in her car, how do they get home, and if they come in their own car where do they park? Pay?
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Porthleven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.[/p][/quote]I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.[/p][/quote]well she obviously hasnt[/p][/quote]Has it ever occurred to you she might not have anyone to help, she mentions in the article about her husband not being well. And other people might be at work. If someone comes to help in her car, how do they get home, and if they come in their own car where do they park? Pay? Mark Porthleven
  • Score: -5

7:35pm Thu 3 Jul 14

meerkats says...

Mark Porthleven wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Mark Porthleven wrote:
meerkats wrote:
could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.
I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.
well she obviously hasnt
Has it ever occurred to you she might not have anyone to help, she mentions in the article about her husband not being well. And other people might be at work. If someone comes to help in her car, how do they get home, and if they come in their own car where do they park? Pay?
you bring me down on every comment i make so i will not be replying to you after this.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Porthleven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Porthleven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.[/p][/quote]I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.[/p][/quote]well she obviously hasnt[/p][/quote]Has it ever occurred to you she might not have anyone to help, she mentions in the article about her husband not being well. And other people might be at work. If someone comes to help in her car, how do they get home, and if they come in their own car where do they park? Pay?[/p][/quote]you bring me down on every comment i make so i will not be replying to you after this. meerkats
  • Score: -8

9:21pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Gill Z Martin says...

I think meerkats made a very sensible suggestion, it is obviously not financially viable to allow oneself to keep receiving parking fines, therefore seeking assistance in unloading would make sense. Presumably volunteers help in the shops seeing as there are two shops, could it not be arranged for a volunteer to assist with loading/unloading?
I think meerkats made a very sensible suggestion, it is obviously not financially viable to allow oneself to keep receiving parking fines, therefore seeking assistance in unloading would make sense. Presumably volunteers help in the shops seeing as there are two shops, could it not be arranged for a volunteer to assist with loading/unloading? Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

10:35pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

Ok point taken GZM, and meerkats, but you know what I think, I think it's rubbish about this unloading lark, why would you need to load or unload that often at a charity shop? People take things into a charity shop for them to sell, the owner/manager doesn't bring all the stuff in all the time, or take stuff out all the time. I think she just wants to park there and probably most of the time gets away with it but other times gets caught, that's why she got so many fines, who really would clock up that many fines just by parking outside the five minute limit continually. Just saying it as I see it. It would have to be very bad timing to get caught just unloading a bit over a five minute limit that many times surely.
Ok point taken GZM, and meerkats, but you know what I think, I think it's rubbish about this unloading lark, why would you need to load or unload that often at a charity shop? People take things into a charity shop for them to sell, the owner/manager doesn't bring all the stuff in all the time, or take stuff out all the time. I think she just wants to park there and probably most of the time gets away with it but other times gets caught, that's why she got so many fines, who really would clock up that many fines just by parking outside the five minute limit continually. Just saying it as I see it. It would have to be very bad timing to get caught just unloading a bit over a five minute limit that many times surely. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: 10

7:38am Fri 4 Jul 14

jgrumpy says...

When you donate to Pants you take it to the industrial units up by Sainsburys. They sort out all the stuff there and If there are any items of worth she then takes em to the shop in town. Well that's what she's told me anyway.
When you donate to Pants you take it to the industrial units up by Sainsburys. They sort out all the stuff there and If there are any items of worth she then takes em to the shop in town. Well that's what she's told me anyway. jgrumpy
  • Score: 6

4:00pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

Whatever, the whole thing is still stupid, who else would let themselves get continuous fines to over 700 pounds unless they knew they had a source of money to pay them with. The " I'm a pensioner" bit is totally out of order, either she's a well off pensioner and can afford the fines in which case don't moan about being on a pension, or else she's a poor pensioner with not much money in which case no other poor pensioner would risk that amount of fines. The whole scenario is just unreal and stupid.
Whatever, the whole thing is still stupid, who else would let themselves get continuous fines to over 700 pounds unless they knew they had a source of money to pay them with. The " I'm a pensioner" bit is totally out of order, either she's a well off pensioner and can afford the fines in which case don't moan about being on a pension, or else she's a poor pensioner with not much money in which case no other poor pensioner would risk that amount of fines. The whole scenario is just unreal and stupid. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: 9

8:35pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Hedgeangel says...

As far as I'm aware, PANTS has a van anyway.
As far as I'm aware, PANTS has a van anyway. Hedgeangel
  • Score: 6

8:04am Sat 5 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

So who runs this bit where the stuff is taken and sorted? She says its a business, yeah, sound like a big business to me, easy I would of thought to set up a charity, be given things for free, open TWO shops and take a nice big wage out of it for yourself and run up a load of parking fines knowing exactly where the monies going to come from to pay them. Then seek publicity about how your a pensioner and throw in an ageist and sexist claim about the parking warden when he wont let you off anymore than anyone else gets let off.
So who runs this bit where the stuff is taken and sorted? She says its a business, yeah, sound like a big business to me, easy I would of thought to set up a charity, be given things for free, open TWO shops and take a nice big wage out of it for yourself and run up a load of parking fines knowing exactly where the monies going to come from to pay them. Then seek publicity about how your a pensioner and throw in an ageist and sexist claim about the parking warden when he wont let you off anymore than anyone else gets let off. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: 5

8:19am Sat 5 Jul 14

molesworth says...

Seems to me this story is all about one person's parking frustration, willful law breaking and subsequently accumulating fine after fine in protest. I think 5 minutes to unload a small car as pictured above is ample time for anyone. I'm not unsympathetic to other people's personal tragedies, family illness or the onset of age but I can't see what they've got to do with parking illegally. Noble endeavour isn't a defence either.
On another bad parking matter I wish they'd force people who illegally park in disabled bays to use a wheel chair for 24 hours or go to prison - especially those who 'illegally' pinch disabled spaces in supermarket car parks because they're just plain lazy. I think that practice is like stealing from a disabled person and the offence should be treated as such.
Seems to me this story is all about one person's parking frustration, willful law breaking and subsequently accumulating fine after fine in protest. I think 5 minutes to unload a small car as pictured above is ample time for anyone. I'm not unsympathetic to other people's personal tragedies, family illness or the onset of age but I can't see what they've got to do with parking illegally. Noble endeavour isn't a defence either. On another bad parking matter I wish they'd force people who illegally park in disabled bays to use a wheel chair for 24 hours or go to prison - especially those who 'illegally' pinch disabled spaces in supermarket car parks because they're just plain lazy. I think that practice is like stealing from a disabled person and the offence should be treated as such. molesworth
  • Score: 7

3:54pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

molesworth wrote:
Seems to me this story is all about one person's parking frustration, willful law breaking and subsequently accumulating fine after fine in protest. I think 5 minutes to unload a small car as pictured above is ample time for anyone. I'm not unsympathetic to other people's personal tragedies, family illness or the onset of age but I can't see what they've got to do with parking illegally. Noble endeavour isn't a defence either.
On another bad parking matter I wish they'd force people who illegally park in disabled bays to use a wheel chair for 24 hours or go to prison - especially those who 'illegally' pinch disabled spaces in supermarket car parks because they're just plain lazy. I think that practice is like stealing from a disabled person and the offence should be treated as such.
What about all those people that use blue badges when they haven't even got the disabled person in the car with them.
[quote][p][bold]molesworth[/bold] wrote: Seems to me this story is all about one person's parking frustration, willful law breaking and subsequently accumulating fine after fine in protest. I think 5 minutes to unload a small car as pictured above is ample time for anyone. I'm not unsympathetic to other people's personal tragedies, family illness or the onset of age but I can't see what they've got to do with parking illegally. Noble endeavour isn't a defence either. On another bad parking matter I wish they'd force people who illegally park in disabled bays to use a wheel chair for 24 hours or go to prison - especially those who 'illegally' pinch disabled spaces in supermarket car parks because they're just plain lazy. I think that practice is like stealing from a disabled person and the offence should be treated as such.[/p][/quote]What about all those people that use blue badges when they haven't even got the disabled person in the car with them. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: 7

11:08am Mon 7 Jul 14

Mark Porthleven says...

meerkats wrote:
Mark Porthleven wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Mark Porthleven wrote:
meerkats wrote:
could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.
I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.
well she obviously hasnt
Has it ever occurred to you she might not have anyone to help, she mentions in the article about her husband not being well. And other people might be at work. If someone comes to help in her car, how do they get home, and if they come in their own car where do they park? Pay?
you bring me down on every comment i make so i will not be replying to you after this.
Say something you really believe next time, cos you've done a pretty good job at replying to me since on several other news items.
Don't you like people just disagreeing with you? I just can't see how she hasn't thought of getting someone to help her unload, could be because there is nothing to unload and she just wants to park there.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Porthleven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Porthleven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: could she not get someone to help her unload and save time.[/p][/quote]I think after seven hundred pounds worth of fines she would have already thought of that.[/p][/quote]well she obviously hasnt[/p][/quote]Has it ever occurred to you she might not have anyone to help, she mentions in the article about her husband not being well. And other people might be at work. If someone comes to help in her car, how do they get home, and if they come in their own car where do they park? Pay?[/p][/quote]you bring me down on every comment i make so i will not be replying to you after this.[/p][/quote]Say something you really believe next time, cos you've done a pretty good job at replying to me since on several other news items. Don't you like people just disagreeing with you? I just can't see how she hasn't thought of getting someone to help her unload, could be because there is nothing to unload and she just wants to park there. Mark Porthleven
  • Score: -3

8:53am Tue 8 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

Seems to me Cornwall Council have set the 5 minute limit in this particular place, partly to maximize INCOME, which is desperately needed.

Surely 10 minutes would be a more appropriate time in order to properly load or unload a vehicle ? Especially if it's a full load

This is a problem all over the country in places like Surrey, London and other parts of Cornwall, where the time limits in these places have all recently been increased to 10 minutes after the public had complained of inadequate time

Given the fact that Cornwall Council are using third parties from Buckinghamshire in order to reduce costs for transportation, services, and given the fact that the use of the Enforcement Officers works extremely well in money raising in the way that they do,there is absolutely no chance that they will give up an easy means of collecting money from easy targets
Seems to me Cornwall Council have set the 5 minute limit in this particular place, partly to maximize INCOME, which is desperately needed. Surely 10 minutes would be a more appropriate time in order to properly load or unload a vehicle ? Especially if it's a full load This is a problem all over the country in places like Surrey, London and other parts of Cornwall, where the time limits in these places have all recently been increased to 10 minutes after the public had complained of inadequate time Given the fact that Cornwall Council are using third parties from Buckinghamshire in order to reduce costs for transportation, services, and given the fact that the use of the Enforcement Officers works extremely well in money raising in the way that they do,there is absolutely no chance that they will give up an easy means of collecting money from easy targets telstar1962
  • Score: 4

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