'Disgrace' PCSO jailed for abusing his position to prey on vulnerable women (From This is The West Country)
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'Disgrace' PCSO jailed for abusing his position to prey on vulnerable women
5:31pm Tuesday 19th March 2013 in Cornwall
A Camborne and Redruth PCSO has been sentenced to seven years in jail after abusing his position to prey on vulnerable women.
Peter Bunyan, 40, of Carharrack, near Camborne, called a 'a disgrace to the police service' had turned his radio down when having sex with women.
He was also accused of using the computerised criminal intelligence system like a "dating agency", looking up sensitive information on women
Bunyan had denied all the charges, however he admitted having sex with four women, but claimed it was while he was off duty.
The officer was charged with 12 counts of misconduct in public office for engaging in sexual relationships with five women; sending sexualised text messages to one woman; accessing the police records of six women and two men; accessing computer records and passing it onto two other individuals; and obtaining a loan of money.
Bunyan was found guilty of eight counts of misconduct in public office.
A spokesman for Devon & Cornwall Police said the public have a right to expect "exemplary behaviour from all members of the Police service who are there to protect them.
Adding that the sentence shows the "very serious nature of the charges that the accused faced and the force will always investigate any allegations of this nature thoroughly".
A disciplinary hearing will be held to decide his future this morning, Wednesday, March 20. Bunyan has been suspended from the force since 2011. He had served as a PCSO since 2003.
The case was heard at Taunton Crown Court.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) have launched an investigation into how he was able to commit his offences.
The IPCC is managing an investigation by the professional standards department after a referral was made by Devon and Cornwall Constabulary on March 22, 2011.
IPCC Commissioner Rachel Cerfontyne said: "This man completely abused the position of trust he was in and is a disgrace to the police service. These were criminal actions and he has rightly been found guilty.
"The IPCC has expressed concern at the number of cases across England and Wales where officers have targeted vulnerable women for sex and I hope that this sends a message that corrupt officers will be found out and severely punished.
"We will be receiving a full report from Devon and Cornwall Constabulary and will detail the investigation findings and any learning in due course."
Comments(50)
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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8:53am Wed 20 Mar 13
Wave
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10:49am Wed 20 Mar 13
A policeman is the same human as any other human.
People need to be judged equally and not characterised by their job.
We already have laws in place to punish the police, so that proves we expect them to abuse their position.
It's entirely natural and predictable.
Even mathematical I would say.
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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12:40pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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12:48pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Incidentally regarding treating people equally and not categorising them by their job is debatable, whilst most things should apply equally if one has a job within the public servants category then I believe those people should be more accountable and their wages reflect that position, otherwise if there was complete equal treatment why does not everyone earn the same wages.
Wave
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1:02pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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1:45pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Wave
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2:46pm Wed 20 Mar 13
To say whether someone is morally good or bad is just a subjective, personal or group opinion, based from faith or cultural customs.
As an individual I try to distance myself from 'made up' convictions.
If you judge yourself as morally good, I can equally judge you as morally bad. It's a futile disagreement.
Morals are a set of principles, principles are derived from belief.
Whether the whole country agree with you and just one person disagrees is irrelevant. Morality is not a democracy.
Though I said we are all depraved, I would not choose to use that word myself, as it has no real meaning anyway. It's not useful. As it presumes too much.
We are all animals that obey instincts and interests of survival.
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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3:11pm Wed 20 Mar 13
I fail to see how could judge me as morally bad, you do not know me and have no idea about how I behave in any given situation.
No we are not all animals that obey instincts and interests of survival because otherwise there would not be those that commit suicide.
Jo Kernow
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3:51pm Wed 20 Mar 13
I dont know who Gill is but i know she has posted on this site in the past and mentioned she has been assulted in the past so i would think she has more idea about what is morally right than you do. Where were your morals when you posted that comment about keep the noise down at the Porthleven food festival or the Israelis will kill you, oh of course you dont think morals exist in your scientific world.
Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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4:23pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Never mind the pseudo-scientific rationalisation; if I was in that position and the thought to take advantage flashed through my mind, it would be quickly followed by the thought 'but it's wrong', and I would not do it.
I believe the majority of people have similar standards and refute your argument that it's only laws and fear that stop us.
meerkats
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4:39pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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4:43pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Wave
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4:56pm Wed 20 Mar 13
We all have our internal moral code, but they are highly variable, and none of them are 'right' they just exist in our heads as an imagined state. We are also not completely born with our morals, we are manipulated as children by schools and parents into giving us a moral code.
For example there is nothing wrong about killing someone randomly or for a reason, yet it feels very wrong to us to even consider it. This is due to the influence of society. And that influence works to a degree.
But sometime in the future the general moral 'right' maybe to kill any human on sight (unless to mate), as we could live in a more independent and individual existence. Being 'nice' to people is only a fashion of the times for the human race. It is governed by nature, even our intelligence is a slave to it.
Jo kernow, you are not worth debating with if you want to character assassinate.
Gill suicide is easy to explain. it's a perfectly normal animal instinct.
Suicide is self termination. Self termination is even genetically built into many living things after their useful life spreading purpose has ended.
if a person can see no hope for themselves they it's perfectly logical to kill ones self. That's based on their own self assessment. Which of course maybe incorrect. But at the time of suicide the reasoning fits in with nature. It provides the remaining humans with more resources and less of a burden from a person that is problematic and therefore suicidal, perhaps in historical times, that person would have been killed by the tribe long before they became suicidal.
Suicide can also occur quickly from a sudden grief perhaps from a tragic loss of family or partner. This is also understandable in nature as emotional pain might make them no longer suitable to raise another family successfully
Additionally suicide can just be a by-product of our highly evolved intelligence, something that is not helpful to us, but is an acceptable (in nature) result of our speedy evolution of the brain.
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Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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5:14pm Wed 20 Mar 13
This copper was not playing the game.
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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5:40pm Wed 20 Mar 13
lts are acceptable. Count me out of this debate now, as I personally find some of your comments disturbing.
Wave
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5:55pm Wed 20 Mar 13
meerkats
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6:16pm Wed 20 Mar 13
Wave wrote:We all have our own opinions on rights and wrongs and i agree with Gill that in general most people do not accept violence/ assaults or abuse of any kind. Whats more they should not have to.
Yes I count you out.
Wave
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9:20pm Wed 20 Mar 13
molesworth
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6:45am Thu 21 Mar 13
Actually, it's a very interesting subject what a society considers right or wrong but you should try to resist making generalisations. This policeman is not representative of most people. Most people have a conscience regardless of what's legal or what they're allowed to do by whatever society they happen to be in.
Finally, behaviour can be driven by the fight to survive, which is something else altogether and several books have been written on the subject. This policeman was not trying to survive either. He was taking advantage because he could. Selfish and wrong by most people's moral code from any society.
ucsweb
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9:06am Thu 21 Mar 13
It is not possible to have a society based on everyone doing whatever pops into their head. Rules and guidelines are setup by society to give a framework of expected behaviour for the greater good. Penalties exist for the few who cannot or will not live within that framework.
If there is no moral right or wrong then how is it natural for people who have all they need to survive to steal anything?
Very few animals take or consume more than they need to survive.
ForCryingOut Loud
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9:56am Thu 21 Mar 13
Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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10:09am Thu 21 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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10:56am Thu 21 Mar 13
ForCryingOut Loud wrote:Not quite sure who you are referring to but as far as I am concerned my only mention of police officers or the police service was purely within the associated realms of the debate, not in reference to the offending PCSO. I am quite well aware of the difference between a PCSO and a sworn police officer and the difference in their powers. I also disagree that they are dressed like police officers, there are clear differences between their uniforms. When you say "why it so hard for 'people' to take this on board" you are in my opinion generalising.
Why do so many people refer to PCSO's as police officers? THEY ARE NOT. They are dressed like them to make the public think they are a police officer but they are a community support officer, not a regular, sworn officer with all their associated powers. Why is it so hard for people to take this on board?
Wave
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1:03pm Thu 21 Mar 13
uscweb, we are social animals, for now anyway, as I said that may change in the future if its worth doing. But we are social to a degree, perhaps upto a few hundred people is what we have evovled intergrated socialness in. With populations higher than that things get more war like. A larger population is a bit like an enemy. Everyone can not be part of your close social group.
Even if you are very strong and have everything you need in life, it still makes sense to reduce the threat of the millions of other people not in your social community. Taking it smaller it's also in the interest of a family to make sure it is a stronger family than the other families in the accepted social group. All these things can work automatically in the sub concious and not just in pro-active actions. We can still be friendly and aggressive to the extreme of mass murder. The world of politics works on this principle I would say. Metaphorically and literally.
Animals strive to be dominant, they expend a balanced amount of energy to achieve it.
Obervations are not always about the norms though. We have a good degree of natural variation in our psychological way of life and outlook.
It's essential for us to be successful.
Obviously the PCSO was caught.
But if he had done things slightly differently he might have got away with it. His way of life may have had influence on others and created offspring he could control and educate or simply pass on his genetics.
For humans as a species there is nothing wrong about a successful criminal, only unsuccessful criminals are bad, and funnily enough this is what happens in actual cases, the unsuccessful criminals get caught, making the uncaught ones even stronger and able to pass on their knowledge and morality to their social group.
You may have seen the penguin thief on that Attenborough documentary a few years back. That is a perfect example of how crime is a good thing and how it benefits a species. Obviously not all, if we were all criminals then we would all die. But craftiness and opportunity are evolved and clever behaviours.
The more police and laws we have the better and stronger criminals will become. It's inevitable.
And that's one reason humans are so dominant on the planet. We are an aggressive species to each other, and just as powerfully social too. In an interesting variety of ways.
Comment posts on a news website are little battles and tests of strength. Deliberate or not. The pattern happens.
It's a social element we naturally like, a sharing of information, but also a threat of other peoples different views. We barely tolerate each other here. There is always some hope of common ground though. Either that or war!
Wave
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1:36pm Thu 21 Mar 13
I thought Israeli was the right word, i have heard it before and it's ok in spell-check.
Or you wanted to weigh in about something else like Jo likes to do?
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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2:02pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Wave wrote:It was in reference to Jo Kernows post, you did not put Israeli on the Porthleven food festival article you put Israeli's and I believe the plural of Israeli is Israelites.
Gill I just read your mention of my Israeli post, what's that doing here.
I thought Israeli was the right word, i have heard it before and it's ok in spell-check.
Or you wanted to weigh in about something else like Jo likes to do?
What I post on this article is up to me or are you a self appointed moderator.
Jo Kernow
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2:44pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Wave wrote:As you once criticised meerkats for just saying she agreed with someone once, the fact you now keep doing it i think you are either a hypocrite or more likely a very sarcastic person. I know i post things on here people don't like or things i shouldnt have posted because i posted in haste, but i dont post on loads of articles just to pick fault with everything and everyone but you seem to work your way through the website posting comments just to cause an argument with everyone about everything, i think that is a very distaseful comment you put on the sad story about the lady that drowned and i think it was a stupid comment about closing the docks, i think you just do it to annoy people.
I agree with that too.
Wave
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3:13pm Thu 21 Mar 13
I not sarcastic though.
I sometimes also have a go at humour
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Gill I did not ever say you could not, I am questioning why, as In you can tell me why you mentioned it. You dont have to tell me why either.
Dear oh dear oh dear.
Jo, about causing arguments in debate have you read some of Plato's dialogues. That is how to be annoying. I'm nowhere near that.
You better tell the Police if you know the lady drowned, as it seems you have more than public information.
I think most of your comments are stupid Jo, but I have a go at answering some of them. Especially if it annoys you.
meerkats
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3:15pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Jo Kernow wrote:I must admit i didnt know if Wave was genuine in his comment to me or just taking the mickey as he criticised me before with agreeing.
Wave wrote:As you once criticised meerkats for just saying she agreed with someone once, the fact you now keep doing it i think you are either a hypocrite or more likely a very sarcastic person. I know i post things on here people don't like or things i shouldnt have posted because i posted in haste, but i dont post on loads of articles just to pick fault with everything and everyone but you seem to work your way through the website posting comments just to cause an argument with everyone about everything, i think that is a very distaseful comment you put on the sad story about the lady that drowned and i think it was a stupid comment about closing the docks, i think you just do it to annoy people.
I agree with that too.
Wave
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3:22pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Jo Kernow
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3:39pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Jo Kernow
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3:39pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Wave
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4:03pm Thu 21 Mar 13
But thanks for noting the drowning is national news. I wonder why The Packet in it's various articles has never said the woman drowned. The other local papers do not say how she died. The national newspapers must have higher level access.
ucsweb
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4:10pm Thu 21 Mar 13
And with the comment that "All scientists are hypocrites" it sounds like you are starting a religious debate!
Wave
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4:11pm Thu 21 Mar 13
The Times does not say she drowned.
The local papers do not say she drowned.
The Daily Mail and Mirror says she drowned.
Make of that what you will.
Wave
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4:16pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Possibly, I enjoy both philosophical and scientific debates.
I'm probably better at philosophy than science.
In regards to hypocrisy I think it's a worthwhile position to say one thing, then at another second in time, say something contradictory.
If nothing else it shows freedom of thought.
Jo Kernow
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4:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Wave
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4:34pm Thu 21 Mar 13
'You must do what you feel is right, of course.'
But I don't think you find me boring.
But I think you do find me pathetic!
meerkats
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6:28pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Wave wrote:Why take the mickey ? please explain your comment.
I was genuine, but also taking the mickey. I.E. I wasn't lying.
Wave
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6:47pm Thu 21 Mar 13
You said I criticised you for only agreeing to something.
I then agreed with you about something and gave no detail at all.
In the context and in the short time of the apparent criticism. This would suggest i was taking the mickey by doing something myself that I had already suggested not to. In addition to that I was also genuine in the sense I did actually agree with you.
Do you want a better explanation by post or email?
meerkats
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8:41pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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9:17am Fri 22 Mar 13
meerkats
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12:10pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:Thank you Gill, i didnt understand his /her comment and simply asked for an explanation. wasnt expecting the reply i received.
I do not think meerkats is weird I understand her posts perfectly. She is never rude to people either.
Wave
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1:31pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Thankyou everyone!
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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1:45pm Fri 22 Mar 13
meerkats wrote:You are welcome. I noticed waves comment has been removed which is good.
Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:Thank you Gill, i didnt understand his /her comment and simply asked for an explanation. wasnt expecting the reply i received.
I do not think meerkats is weird I understand her posts perfectly. She is never rude to people either.
Wave
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3:25pm Fri 22 Mar 13
That should be better put.
meerkats
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3:34pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Gillian Zella Martin 09
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3:45pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Wave wrote:In my opinion meerkats does not make weird comments or have weired views. If anyone has weired views it is probably me. If you Wave do not like meerkats comments then you need not read them. In my opinion you seem to take pleasure in trying to get a reaction from people by making unkind remarks to them or provoking them by placing posts to incite argument.
Meerkats makes weird comments, and has weird views.
That should be better put.
Please spare me the psychoanalysis diagnosis of me or my comments because I have no wish to interact with you any longer.
Wave
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4:28pm Fri 22 Mar 13
So it's also nonsense communication from you people.
Wave says...
11:23pm Tue 19 Mar 13
But we do have laws to control it.