Legal highs shop "a disgrace" claims top Taunton detective

This is The West Country: DI Ray Hulin and Insp Bob Muckett, who are concerned by the dangers of people taking legal highs. DI Ray Hulin and Insp Bob Muckett, who are concerned by the dangers of people taking legal highs.

A TOP detective has branded a Taunton business “a disgrace” as evidence of ‘legal highs’ devastating people’s lives emerges.

Detective Inspector Ray Hulin says at least one man in the town has died after taking psychoactive substances, which he claims are worse than heroin and crack cocaine.

In incidents linked to the Hush shop on Bridge Street, DI Hulin says: *a “fully functional” man on prescription drugs who took legal highs called Green Goblins died after repeatedly banging his head against a wall; *a professional nearly died after taking Red Devils – he described feeling a substance crawling through his veins towards his heart.

Selling legal highs is not a crime provided the buyer is not told they are for human consumption.

“How the shop owner sleeps at night, I’ve no idea – it’s a disgrace,” said DI Hulin.

“What these people are doing is taking money and risking people’s lives. Morally what’s happening is wrong.”

DI Hulin said most of the legal highs are synthetically produced in China and users don’t know exactly what they’re taking.

He added: “When people buy it, they don’t know how much to take.

“If they have friends in the drugs scene, they know how much heroin to take and can offer some sort of private care and support if there’s a problem. This stuff is just a lottery.”

DI Hulin estimates around a person a week takes an overdose.

“Paramedics are unsure what medication to use because they don’t know what the patient has taken,” he said.

“This isn’t a recreational drug – it’s horrific, worse than crack cocaine and heroin.

“There are real dangers as people don’t know how to cope with what they’re taking.”

Hush was raided before Christmas by police, who seized £250,000 of stock, although no evidence of any illegal activity was found.

Hush owner Simon Tomlin, who accuses the County Gazette of “biased and sensationalist” reporting on legal highs, declined to comment apart from saying he has co-operated with all police inquiries into his business.

 

 

LEGAL HIGHS CATALOGUE OF DANGER.

*Police say intelligence reports indicate some legal high users are taking crack cocaine to come down from legal highs.

*Three burglary suspects were arrested this month – DI Hulin said their lifestyle is “commit crime, sell stolen goods, buy legal highs”.

*A queues of drug users formed outside Hush recently when it failed to open on time and “caused carnage”, banging on windows and acting in an anti-social way towards passers-by because they were desperate for legal highs, DI Hulin said.

*A 37-year-old man was rescued by firefighters from the roof of a building at Taunton’s County Ground on Saturday evening. He was taken to hospital to be treated for the effect of legal highs, according to Insp Bob Muckett, who said the man had been reported for causing a public order offence in town earlier that day.

*DI Hulin said he estimated 80% of Hush customers were drug users, the occasional businessman went there and some children visited later in the day.

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9:58am Thu 12 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

Just close it down and tell the owner to do one!
Just close it down and tell the owner to do one! Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: 2259

8:20am Fri 13 Jun 14

The Central Scrutinizer says...

DI Ray Hulin needs to be reminded that the role of the police in this country is to enforce the law, not pontificate on "morality". The activities of these shops are completely legal and adults who purchase the products offered for sale are responsible for their own actions. DI Hulin's personal views are completely irrelevant.
DI Ray Hulin needs to be reminded that the role of the police in this country is to enforce the law, not pontificate on "morality". The activities of these shops are completely legal and adults who purchase the products offered for sale are responsible for their own actions. DI Hulin's personal views are completely irrelevant. The Central Scrutinizer
  • Score: -838

9:32am Fri 13 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

"adults who purchase the products offered for sale are responsible for their own actions"

I agree, but what about teenagers and children who will get hold of these legal highs?
What about the innocent people whose drink gets spiked by some moron doing it for a laugh?

If they are not safe then ban them.
"adults who purchase the products offered for sale are responsible for their own actions" I agree, but what about teenagers and children who will get hold of these legal highs? What about the innocent people whose drink gets spiked by some moron doing it for a laugh? If they are not safe then ban them. Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: -280

10:18am Fri 13 Jun 14

The Central Scrutinizer says...

Not safe? Quantify what you mean by 'safe', please. People sometimes die from allergic reactions to eating peanuts. People have been known to choke too. What if someone gave a peanut to a teenager or a child who had an allergic reaction? What if I were allergic and some moron gave me peanuts for a laugh without me knowing? Obviously peanuts are not safe so by your logic they should be banned..
Not safe? Quantify what you mean by 'safe', please. People sometimes die from allergic reactions to eating peanuts. People have been known to choke too. What if someone gave a peanut to a teenager or a child who had an allergic reaction? What if I were allergic and some moron gave me peanuts for a laugh without me knowing? Obviously peanuts are not safe so by your logic they should be banned.. The Central Scrutinizer
  • Score: 322

10:45am Fri 13 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

Take a look at the low life that hang around this shop, it speaks volumes about the type of people who take this rubbish, hardly upstanding members of our community!

If you think its safe then please go ahead and take some (or lot its up to you if you think its safe!)

I just hope this stuff is banned sooner rather than later.
Take a look at the low life that hang around this shop, it speaks volumes about the type of people who take this rubbish, hardly upstanding members of our community! If you think its safe then please go ahead and take some (or lot its up to you if you think its safe!) I just hope this stuff is banned sooner rather than later. Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: -320

3:30pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Freespeech?. says...

Ban alcohol and tobacco, thats not safe either.
And while your at it ban any thing that I can sniff and get high from. Glue, aerosols, petrol, lighter fuel.... yada yada yada.
Ban alcohol and tobacco, thats not safe either. And while your at it ban any thing that I can sniff and get high from. Glue, aerosols, petrol, lighter fuel.... yada yada yada. Freespeech?.
  • Score: 342

3:46pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

But we know if you drink or smoke too much then there are short term and long term health risks and Kids shouldn't be able to get hold of them from shops, plus these are regulated industries to some degree.

We have no idea what is in these legal highs or what effect they will have on people who already take prescribed medicines.

If you are willing to take/sniff "Glue, aerosols, petrol, lighter fuel.... yada yada yada." then you are already past the point of no return or are just plain stupid!

The term 'LEGAL High' is a little misleading and dangerous for the young and foolish people who will experiment and take chances with this rubbish just because you can buy it over the counter.
But we know if you drink or smoke too much then there are short term and long term health risks and Kids shouldn't be able to get hold of them from shops, plus these are regulated industries to some degree. We have no idea what is in these legal highs or what effect they will have on people who already take prescribed medicines. If you are willing to take/sniff "Glue, aerosols, petrol, lighter fuel.... yada yada yada." then you are already past the point of no return or are just plain stupid! The term 'LEGAL High' is a little misleading and dangerous for the young and foolish people who will experiment and take chances with this rubbish just because you can buy it over the counter. Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: -317

12:59pm Sat 14 Jun 14

banthebias says...

This is yet ANOTHER biased article about legal highs. It is the choice of the user if they wish to use drugs. It IS NOT the police's role to determine where the boundary of morality lies, it is their job to enforce the law. The author has written on this topic before and been totally incapable of producing a balanced report.

LEGAL HIGHS: 68 Deaths 'linked' to deaths per year
TOBACCO: 80,000 deaths per year
ALCOHOL: 8-10,000 deaths per year
OPIATES: 1200 deaths per year

Legal Highs are becoming increasing popular and the out dated laws we have in this country are leading to more harm than good. The UN has already declared the war on drugs lost and agree that more lives are devasted through the ILLEGALITY of substances than are improved.

“If they have friends in the drugs scene, they know how much heroin to take and can offer some sort of private care and support if there’s a problem. This stuff is just a lottery.” - DI Hulin. THIS COMMENT IS JUST STUPID! He should be embarrassed to have even made it.

The law states that these shops are not allowed to offer advice on these new substances. So the law is hindering the safe use of drugs.

The government has reported that it makes no difference to the user whether the drug is legal or not, so why can't we just educate and regulate the industry??? This approach has proven to reduce drug harm in countries like Holland, Spain and Portugal so why are we so insistent on not changing our approach to drug use in society?

We will not get rid of drug use in society so why don't we do our best to regulate the industry (like alcohol) and support those whose suffer from addiction (like alcohol).

My real issue is that whenever you see a report like this in the Media the facts and science seem to be brushed to the side in a tidal wave of emotion and 'morality'. Media focus on legal highs instills fear and inhibits a proper discussion on the issue. SO rather than highlighting the issue in a helpful way, this newspaper (as well as many others) are purely trying scare people about legal highs. The fear that is induced means that there is unlikely to be an honest and open debate on drugs in society.

The fact of the matter is, if the government legalised the known safe drugs such as cannabis and MDMA then there would not be the huge range of products available in these shops. Banning legal high after legal high just results in our streets being flooded with numerous new chemicals. Once again the law end up causing more harm to the public.
This is yet ANOTHER biased article about legal highs. It is the choice of the user if they wish to use drugs. It IS NOT the police's role to determine where the boundary of morality lies, it is their job to enforce the law. The author has written on this topic before and been totally incapable of producing a balanced report. LEGAL HIGHS: 68 Deaths 'linked' to deaths per year TOBACCO: 80,000 deaths per year ALCOHOL: 8-10,000 deaths per year OPIATES: 1200 deaths per year Legal Highs are becoming increasing popular and the out dated laws we have in this country are leading to more harm than good. The UN has already declared the war on drugs lost and agree that more lives are devasted through the ILLEGALITY of substances than are improved. “If they have friends in the drugs scene, they know how much heroin to take and can offer some sort of private care and support if there’s a problem. This stuff is just a lottery.” - DI Hulin. THIS COMMENT IS JUST STUPID! He should be embarrassed to have even made it. The law states that these shops are not allowed to offer advice on these new substances. So the law is hindering the safe use of drugs. The government has reported that it makes no difference to the user whether the drug is legal or not, so why can't we just educate and regulate the industry??? This approach has proven to reduce drug harm in countries like Holland, Spain and Portugal so why are we so insistent on not changing our approach to drug use in society? We will not get rid of drug use in society so why don't we do our best to regulate the industry (like alcohol) and support those whose suffer from addiction (like alcohol). My real issue is that whenever you see a report like this in the Media the facts and science seem to be brushed to the side in a tidal wave of emotion and 'morality'. Media focus on legal highs instills fear and inhibits a proper discussion on the issue. SO rather than highlighting the issue in a helpful way, this newspaper (as well as many others) are purely trying scare people about legal highs. The fear that is induced means that there is unlikely to be an honest and open debate on drugs in society. The fact of the matter is, if the government legalised the known safe drugs such as cannabis and MDMA then there would not be the huge range of products available in these shops. Banning legal high after legal high just results in our streets being flooded with numerous new chemicals. Once again the law end up causing more harm to the public. banthebias
  • Score: 462

3:36pm Sat 14 Jun 14

BaldyLocks says...

How does Detective Inspector Ray Hulin feel about the Avon&Somerset officer that allowed his police dog to savage a handcuffed, shirtless man lying face down on the floor while another officer was holding him down?
Now that's what I call a disgrace.
How does Detective Inspector Ray Hulin feel about the Avon&Somerset officer that allowed his police dog to savage a handcuffed, shirtless man lying face down on the floor while another officer was holding him down? Now that's what I call a disgrace. BaldyLocks
  • Score: -23

5:51pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Monument says...

This is a complete none story and the police should get on and police.

The only word that matters here is "legal" no other comment is required.
This is a complete none story and the police should get on and police. The only word that matters here is "legal" no other comment is required. Monument
  • Score: 453

6:47pm Sat 14 Jun 14

banthebias says...

The only Disgrace here is DI ray Hulin's sweeping comments in order to create hostility towards a legal business. I get the impression that he's probably upset as arrests are down. If arrests are down, that must mean crime is down.......?(unless the police really aren't doing their jobs properly)

Less crime = Less coppers. Now the police force don't want that do they.....?!
The only Disgrace here is DI ray Hulin's sweeping comments in order to create hostility towards a legal business. I get the impression that he's probably upset as arrests are down. If arrests are down, that must mean crime is down.......?(unless the police really aren't doing their jobs properly) Less crime = Less coppers. Now the police force don't want that do they.....?! banthebias
  • Score: 392

9:27am Mon 16 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

I see that a lot of Teenagers and Fools have visited this page over the weekend!
I see that a lot of Teenagers and Fools have visited this page over the weekend! Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: -474

9:24am Tue 17 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

I'd imagine people only take these highs as there lives are so worthless?
I'd imagine people only take these highs as there lives are so worthless? Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: 219

1:16pm Tue 17 Jun 14

r000006 says...

Somerset_BTGOG wrote:
I'd imagine people only take these highs as there lives are so worthless?
I imagine you keep coming back to comment on this story for the same reason.....
[quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: I'd imagine people only take these highs as there lives are so worthless?[/p][/quote]I imagine you keep coming back to comment on this story for the same reason..... r000006
  • Score: 127

1:41pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs!

Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.
I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs! Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish. Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: -65

2:26pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Freespeech?. says...

Somerset_BTGOG wrote:
I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs!

Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.
How about some facts to backup your claims Somerset_BTGOG?
Below are some actual facts, but please don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself.

Published in the Lancet by The Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD)..............
.........
"The latest figures on these new psychoactive substances were published as two separate datasets: one from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths claiming 68 deaths, and the other, from the Office for National Statistics, claiming 52. These numbers are tiny when compared, in both relative and absolute terms, with the 80,000 deaths per year from tobacco, the 8,000 from alcohol."
[quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs! Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.[/p][/quote]How about some facts to backup your claims Somerset_BTGOG? Below are some actual facts, but please don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself. Published in the Lancet by The Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD).............. ......... "The latest figures on these new psychoactive substances were published as two separate datasets: one from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths claiming 68 deaths, and the other, from the Office for National Statistics, claiming 52. These numbers are tiny when compared, in both relative and absolute terms, with the 80,000 deaths per year from tobacco, the 8,000 from alcohol." Freespeech?.
  • Score: 312

2:26pm Tue 17 Jun 14

TauntonSucks says...

"DI Hulin said he estimated 80% of Hush customers were drug users, the occasional businessman went there and some children visited later in the day."

What a pig-ignorant, bigoted thing to say. To label drug users and businessmen as separate entities shows a total lack of understanding about drug use and also demonstrates an alarming level of prejudice against people who the Police don't like the look of. Guess what DI Hulin......people who wear suits take drugs (cue Operation Businessman lol)! Doctors, lawyers......even world leaders. Obama did cocaine, Clinton smoked cannabis and our own PM Mr David Cameron can allegedly be seen on video at a rave where a lot of people would be high on genuine MDMA pills (this is back in 1988 when freedom in this country still existed...it's gone now).

Here's the clip, Call Me Dave looks to show up around 12 seconds in. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=f5RLNdWQP
ps
"DI Hulin said he estimated 80% of Hush customers were drug users, the occasional businessman went there and some children visited later in the day." What a pig-ignorant, bigoted thing to say. To label drug users and businessmen as separate entities shows a total lack of understanding about drug use and also demonstrates an alarming level of prejudice against people who the Police don't like the look of. Guess what DI Hulin......people who wear suits take drugs (cue Operation Businessman lol)! Doctors, lawyers......even world leaders. Obama did cocaine, Clinton smoked cannabis and our own PM Mr David Cameron can allegedly be seen on video at a rave where a lot of people would be high on genuine MDMA pills (this is back in 1988 when freedom in this country still existed...it's gone now). Here's the clip, Call Me Dave looks to show up around 12 seconds in. Enjoy: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=f5RLNdWQP ps TauntonSucks
  • Score: 315

4:43pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Somerset_BTGOG says...

Freespeech?. wrote:
Somerset_BTGOG wrote: I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs! Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.
How about some facts to backup your claims Somerset_BTGOG? Below are some actual facts, but please don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself. Published in the Lancet by The Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD).............. ......... "The latest figures on these new psychoactive substances were published as two separate datasets: one from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths claiming 68 deaths, and the other, from the Office for National Statistics, claiming 52. These numbers are tiny when compared, in both relative and absolute terms, with the 80,000 deaths per year from tobacco, the 8,000 from alcohol."
Alcohol and Tobacco are not sold to kids!
I've seen groups of kids younger than 10 enter this shop, can you guarantee that this shop will not sell to them?

Smoking and drinking does not cause you to hallucinate and bash your head against a wall unless you abuse it in large quantities, people don’t know how much of this stuff to take therefore they gamble with their lives.

Also drinking or smoking does not directly lead you to harder drugs which 'Legal Highs' could well do to the young and foolish!
[quote][p][bold]Freespeech?.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs! Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.[/p][/quote]How about some facts to backup your claims Somerset_BTGOG? Below are some actual facts, but please don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself. Published in the Lancet by The Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD).............. ......... "The latest figures on these new psychoactive substances were published as two separate datasets: one from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths claiming 68 deaths, and the other, from the Office for National Statistics, claiming 52. These numbers are tiny when compared, in both relative and absolute terms, with the 80,000 deaths per year from tobacco, the 8,000 from alcohol."[/p][/quote]Alcohol and Tobacco are not sold to kids! I've seen groups of kids younger than 10 enter this shop, can you guarantee that this shop will not sell to them? Smoking and drinking does not cause you to hallucinate and bash your head against a wall unless you abuse it in large quantities, people don’t know how much of this stuff to take therefore they gamble with their lives. Also drinking or smoking does not directly lead you to harder drugs which 'Legal Highs' could well do to the young and foolish! Somerset_BTGOG
  • Score: -342

2:42pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Crazy says...

Somerset_BTGOG wrote:
I see that a lot of Teenagers and Fools have visited this page over the weekend!
I see that you seem to have visited this page quite a lot over the weekend. Fool. Stop twitching in your pants and concentrate on the way you spend your own life.
[quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: I see that a lot of Teenagers and Fools have visited this page over the weekend![/p][/quote]I see that you seem to have visited this page quite a lot over the weekend. Fool. Stop twitching in your pants and concentrate on the way you spend your own life. Captain Crazy
  • Score: -2

2:50pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Crazy says...

Somerset_BTGOG wrote:
I'd imagine people only take these highs as there lives are so worthless?
So tell us BigThickGrumpyOldGit
, what have you ever done that makes your life so worthwhile that you can demean others? Stop twitching in your pants and concentrate on the way you spend your own life. I can't imagine much of a response to this request.
[quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: I'd imagine people only take these highs as there lives are so worthless?[/p][/quote]So tell us BigThickGrumpyOldGit , what have you ever done that makes your life so worthwhile that you can demean others? Stop twitching in your pants and concentrate on the way you spend your own life. I can't imagine much of a response to this request. Captain Crazy
  • Score: -2

3:04pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Crazy says...

Somerset_BTGOG wrote:
Freespeech?. wrote:
Somerset_BTGOG wrote: I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs! Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.
How about some facts to backup your claims Somerset_BTGOG? Below are some actual facts, but please don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself. Published in the Lancet by The Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD).............. ......... "The latest figures on these new psychoactive substances were published as two separate datasets: one from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths claiming 68 deaths, and the other, from the Office for National Statistics, claiming 52. These numbers are tiny when compared, in both relative and absolute terms, with the 80,000 deaths per year from tobacco, the 8,000 from alcohol."
Alcohol and Tobacco are not sold to kids!
I've seen groups of kids younger than 10 enter this shop, can you guarantee that this shop will not sell to them?

Smoking and drinking does not cause you to hallucinate and bash your head against a wall unless you abuse it in large quantities, people don’t know how much of this stuff to take therefore they gamble with their lives.

Also drinking or smoking does not directly lead you to harder drugs which 'Legal Highs' could well do to the young and foolish!
As a responsible businessman and a customer of Hush Taunton I will confirm that in my experience anybody that has appeared to be under age IS asked for proof of ID before purchase and I have seem numerous customers turned away because they cannot prove their age. The business is run professionally and within the boundaries of THE LAW, they would be a fool (like you BigThick) not to, seeing as they are under such oppression, scrutiny and victimization as 'easy prey'.
[quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freespeech?.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somerset_BTGOG[/bold] wrote: I keep coming back as I find it amusing that some of you try and defend Legal Highs! Drug-related deaths in England and Wales involving legal highs have increased sharply over the last year, maybe its something to do with irresponsible shops selling this rubbish.[/p][/quote]How about some facts to backup your claims Somerset_BTGOG? Below are some actual facts, but please don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself. Published in the Lancet by The Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD).............. ......... "The latest figures on these new psychoactive substances were published as two separate datasets: one from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths claiming 68 deaths, and the other, from the Office for National Statistics, claiming 52. These numbers are tiny when compared, in both relative and absolute terms, with the 80,000 deaths per year from tobacco, the 8,000 from alcohol."[/p][/quote]Alcohol and Tobacco are not sold to kids! I've seen groups of kids younger than 10 enter this shop, can you guarantee that this shop will not sell to them? Smoking and drinking does not cause you to hallucinate and bash your head against a wall unless you abuse it in large quantities, people don’t know how much of this stuff to take therefore they gamble with their lives. Also drinking or smoking does not directly lead you to harder drugs which 'Legal Highs' could well do to the young and foolish![/p][/quote]As a responsible businessman and a customer of Hush Taunton I will confirm that in my experience anybody that has appeared to be under age IS asked for proof of ID before purchase and I have seem numerous customers turned away because they cannot prove their age. The business is run professionally and within the boundaries of THE LAW, they would be a fool (like you BigThick) not to, seeing as they are under such oppression, scrutiny and victimization as 'easy prey'. Captain Crazy
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