Offended Muslim brands Taunton solicitor's tweets 'racist'

Offended Muslim brands Taunton solicitor's tweets 'racist'

Offended Muslim brands Taunton solicitor's tweets 'racist'

Offended Muslim brands Taunton solicitor's tweets 'racist'

Offended Muslim brands Taunton solicitor's tweets 'racist'

Offended Muslim brands Taunton solicitor's tweets 'racist'

Osama Elogab.

First published in News

A HIGH-flying lawyer whose Twitter account mooted the possibility of “dedicated Islamic airports and airlines” has been branded a “racist” by an offended Muslim.

Solicitor-advocate Jamie Foster stands by the comments, even though he says he is unsure whether he actually posted them himself.

The tweets on the account in the name of Mr Foster, a partner at law firm Clarke Willmott in Taunton, appeared in the wake of the disappearance of a Malaysian plane earlier this month.

The first message said: “Is it time for dedicated Islamic airports and airlines so the rest of us can carry as much water as we like?”

That was followed up with: “Remember noticing Islamists are responsible for bombing airlines is ‘casual Islamophobia’ but believing all slave owners were white is fine.”

It was rounded off with: “For the record I am a great fan of all hardworking moderates of all colours and creeds. Keep your apologies for extremism and sloth to yourself.”

Osama Elogab, from Creech St Michael, said: “That’s shocking, very offensive, disgraceful.

“He’s suggesting all Muslims are terrorists, which is wrong.

“For him to be able to get away with that is just criminal. It’s racist and outrageous.

“He shouldn’t be allowed to incite hate and should be arrested.

“These are quite scary views. It’s surprising coming from a solicitor – he should know better.”

Mr Foster, who had already resigned from Clarke Willmott to take up another job before the storm broke, said the reaction to the tweets was “out of all proportion”.

He added: “I’m not even sure I’m the person who tweeted those comments – I don’t write all of my tweets.

“Nobody was saying anything about the generality of Muslims in this country.

“What was meant was that extremist Muslims are causing people to be inconvenienced.

“It was saying that if the Malaysian plane was another extremist bombing, what a nightmare.

A Clarke Wilmmitt spokesman said: “Mr Foster’s comments in no way reflect the views of Clarke Willmott LLP.

“We are a diverse business and we do not support such views.

“Clarke Willmott LLP confirms that prior to his tweet Mr Foster had already provided his notice which has been accepted and he will be leaving the firm in due course.”

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1:14pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SamF92 says...

Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.
Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD. SamF92
  • Score: -4

2:03pm Thu 20 Mar 14

lisbonpete says...

I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country. lisbonpete
  • Score: 16

2:07pm Thu 20 Mar 14

SamF92 says...

lisbonpete wrote:
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
In a nutshell mate, comments like this are the reason Mr Elogab has a problem.
[quote][p][bold]lisbonpete[/bold] wrote: I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.[/p][/quote]In a nutshell mate, comments like this are the reason Mr Elogab has a problem. SamF92
  • Score: 6

5:18pm Thu 20 Mar 14

JedBartlet says...

lisbonpete wrote:
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
Islamic extremists are to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity.

Deciding that a religion 'belongs back in the middle ages' on the basis of a few extremists is extreme to say the least. Mr Foster's comments were racist and raise the interesting concept of whether he'd be OK with Islam extremists as long as they were only going to harm innocent people of the same faith.
[quote][p][bold]lisbonpete[/bold] wrote: I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.[/p][/quote]Islamic extremists are to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. Deciding that a religion 'belongs back in the middle ages' on the basis of a few extremists is extreme to say the least. Mr Foster's comments were racist and raise the interesting concept of whether he'd be OK with Islam extremists as long as they were only going to harm innocent people of the same faith. JedBartlet
  • Score: 14

5:50pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Useacarpark.com says...

You only needed to watch crime watch last night to see what's wrong with this country! take that which ever way you want.....
You only needed to watch crime watch last night to see what's wrong with this country! take that which ever way you want..... Useacarpark.com
  • Score: 13

9:48pm Thu 20 Mar 14

TauntonBloke29 says...

Too many people in this country invoke their right to be 'offended'. We are all offended at some point in our lives - most of us regularly, if not hourly. Perhaps, we should just get over it and move on with our own lives without making a huge fuss? Freedom of speech allows us to offend if we so wish - as annoying as it can be sometimes :)
Too many people in this country invoke their right to be 'offended'. We are all offended at some point in our lives - most of us regularly, if not hourly. Perhaps, we should just get over it and move on with our own lives without making a huge fuss? Freedom of speech allows us to offend if we so wish - as annoying as it can be sometimes :) TauntonBloke29
  • Score: 26

9:50pm Thu 20 Mar 14

TauntonBloke29 says...

SamF92 wrote:
Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.
I think he is trying to say that a great number of people who court and dealt in African slaves were infact black themselves and then sold them to white slave traders from the West and America. He is trying to be a little clever but I think he could have made a clearer statement by saying that he is just making a statement that in all fairness happens to be based on some clear reasoning.
[quote][p][bold]SamF92[/bold] wrote: Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.[/p][/quote]I think he is trying to say that a great number of people who court and dealt in African slaves were infact black themselves and then sold them to white slave traders from the West and America. He is trying to be a little clever but I think he could have made a clearer statement by saying that he is just making a statement that in all fairness happens to be based on some clear reasoning. TauntonBloke29
  • Score: 7

9:58pm Thu 20 Mar 14

TauntonBloke29 says...

TauntonBloke29 wrote:
SamF92 wrote:
Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.
I think he is trying to say that a great number of people who court and dealt in African slaves were infact black themselves and then sold them to white slave traders from the West and America. He is trying to be a little clever but I think he could have made a clearer statement by saying that he is just making a statement that in all fairness happens to be based on some clear reasoning.
Caught, not court - silly me.
[quote][p][bold]TauntonBloke29[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SamF92[/bold] wrote: Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.[/p][/quote]I think he is trying to say that a great number of people who court and dealt in African slaves were infact black themselves and then sold them to white slave traders from the West and America. He is trying to be a little clever but I think he could have made a clearer statement by saying that he is just making a statement that in all fairness happens to be based on some clear reasoning.[/p][/quote]Caught, not court - silly me. TauntonBloke29
  • Score: 3

8:48am Fri 21 Mar 14

SocialistParty.SomersetBranch says...

I find the above quoted Twitter comments attributed to Jamie Foster's account, to be both alarming and disturbing in the extreme.

Should any other person also find the comments to be ether alarming or distressing; they should perhaps read the information below before considering their options and deciding upon their most appropriate course of action.

Harassment, alarm or distress is a statutory offence in England and Wales. It is also a term of art used in sections 4A and 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 (which take their names from this expression).

The offence

The offence is created by section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. Section 5(1) provides:

"(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he:

(a) uses threatening words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening ,within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby."

The words "or abusive" were substituted for the words ", abusive or insulting", in both places they occurred, on 1 February 2014.

This offence has the following statutory defences:

(a) The defendant had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be alarmed or distressed by his action.

(b) The defendant was in a dwelling and had no reason to believe that his behaviour would be seen or heard by any person outside any dwelling.

(c) The conduct was reasonable.

Hope this is helpful information.
I find the above quoted Twitter comments attributed to Jamie Foster's account, to be both alarming and disturbing in the extreme. Should any other person also find the comments to be ether alarming or distressing; they should perhaps read the information below before considering their options and deciding upon their most appropriate course of action. Harassment, alarm or distress is a statutory offence in England and Wales. It is also a term of art used in sections 4A and 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 (which take their names from this expression). The offence The offence is created by section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. Section 5(1) provides: "(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he: (a) uses threatening [or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [or abusive],within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby." The words "or abusive" were substituted for the words ", abusive or insulting", in both places they occurred,[1] on 1 February 2014. This offence has the following statutory defences: (a) The defendant had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be alarmed or distressed by his action. (b) The defendant was in a dwelling and had no reason to believe that his behaviour would be seen or heard by any person outside any dwelling. (c) The conduct was reasonable. Hope this is helpful information. SocialistParty.SomersetBranch
  • Score: -13

9:38am Fri 21 Mar 14

SocialistParty.SomersetBranch says...

SamF92 wrote:
Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.
Well said Sam...
[quote][p][bold]SamF92[/bold] wrote: Will Jamie care to elaborate on the vast multitude of slave owners who were black? I think he needs to chuck in the legal business and get started on his PhD.[/p][/quote]Well said Sam... SocialistParty.SomersetBranch
  • Score: -4

9:39am Fri 21 Mar 14

SocialistParty.SomersetBranch says...

SamF92 wrote:
lisbonpete wrote:
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
In a nutshell mate, comments like this are the reason Mr Elogab has a problem.
Well said again Sam...

www.socialistparty.o
rg.uk.
[quote][p][bold]SamF92[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisbonpete[/bold] wrote: I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.[/p][/quote]In a nutshell mate, comments like this are the reason Mr Elogab has a problem.[/p][/quote]Well said again Sam... www.socialistparty.o rg.uk. SocialistParty.SomersetBranch
  • Score: -9

5:45pm Fri 21 Mar 14

cerdicboy says...

I think it is good that this pro-hunting Countryside Alliance retained lawyer is moving on. I just hope its out of Somerset as there is no place for 'rednecks' like him in this beautiful county.
I suspect will will see him pop up as a UKIP candidate soon somewhere.
I think it is good that this pro-hunting Countryside Alliance retained lawyer is moving on. I just hope its out of Somerset as there is no place for 'rednecks' like him in this beautiful county. I suspect will will see him pop up as a UKIP candidate soon somewhere. cerdicboy
  • Score: -2

7:03pm Sat 22 Mar 14

duckface08 says...

When are the aforementioned Socialists going to get rid of their CHIP from their shoulder---can't they see this attitude is what puts people off at elections ? I used to vote Labour but their constant twaddle and envy put me off--never to return.
When are the aforementioned Socialists going to get rid of their CHIP from their shoulder---can't they see this attitude is what puts people off at elections ? I used to vote Labour but their constant twaddle and envy put me off--never to return. duckface08
  • Score: 10

11:37am Sun 23 Mar 14

SocialistParty.SomersetBranch says...

cerdicboy wrote:
I think it is good that this pro-hunting Countryside Alliance retained lawyer is moving on. I just hope its out of Somerset as there is no place for 'rednecks' like him in this beautiful county.
I suspect will will see him pop up as a UKIP candidate soon somewhere.
Well said cerdicboy!

This 'redneck' attitude reveals a UKIP parliamentary spokesperson in waiting!
[quote][p][bold]cerdicboy[/bold] wrote: I think it is good that this pro-hunting Countryside Alliance retained lawyer is moving on. I just hope its out of Somerset as there is no place for 'rednecks' like him in this beautiful county. I suspect will will see him pop up as a UKIP candidate soon somewhere.[/p][/quote]Well said cerdicboy! This 'redneck' attitude reveals a UKIP parliamentary spokesperson in waiting! SocialistParty.SomersetBranch
  • Score: -12

6:54pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Useacarpark.com says...

I bet UKIP still get more votes than you! Can't argue with how the country votes
I bet UKIP still get more votes than you! Can't argue with how the country votes Useacarpark.com
  • Score: 15

10:09am Mon 24 Mar 14

Roger the cabinboy says...

lisbonpete wrote:
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
The great oracle has spoken! With views held by a bunch of morons at an EDL rabble. If you want to comment on a religion or philosophy, an intelligent person would probably research his argument and present it in a balanced and coherent way. Not so with both the solicitor and lisbonpete. We forget the genocide committed by the Spanish in South America or that by the Crusaders or the fact the both the most destructive wars in the history of this planet were in fact started by white men and plenty of darker skinned people gave their lives. But do we judge every Spaniard or Englishman or a white person in the same racist way? Try and be more mature and maybe the whole world will be a better place.
[quote][p][bold]lisbonpete[/bold] wrote: I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.[/p][/quote]The great oracle has spoken! With views held by a bunch of morons at an EDL rabble. If you want to comment on a religion or philosophy, an intelligent person would probably research his argument and present it in a balanced and coherent way. Not so with both the solicitor and lisbonpete. We forget the genocide committed by the Spanish in South America or that by the Crusaders or the fact the both the most destructive wars in the history of this planet were in fact started by white men and plenty of darker skinned people gave their lives. But do we judge every Spaniard or Englishman or a white person in the same racist way? Try and be more mature and maybe the whole world will be a better place. Roger the cabinboy
  • Score: 4

9:31pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Useacarpark.com says...

Roger the cabinboy wrote:
lisbonpete wrote:
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
The great oracle has spoken! With views held by a bunch of morons at an EDL rabble. If you want to comment on a religion or philosophy, an intelligent person would probably research his argument and present it in a balanced and coherent way. Not so with both the solicitor and lisbonpete. We forget the genocide committed by the Spanish in South America or that by the Crusaders or the fact the both the most destructive wars in the history of this planet were in fact started by white men and plenty of darker skinned people gave their lives. But do we judge every Spaniard or Englishman or a white person in the same racist way? Try and be more mature and maybe the whole world will be a better place.
Why dwell on the past when this is the problem of today
[quote][p][bold]Roger the cabinboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisbonpete[/bold] wrote: I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.[/p][/quote]The great oracle has spoken! With views held by a bunch of morons at an EDL rabble. If you want to comment on a religion or philosophy, an intelligent person would probably research his argument and present it in a balanced and coherent way. Not so with both the solicitor and lisbonpete. We forget the genocide committed by the Spanish in South America or that by the Crusaders or the fact the both the most destructive wars in the history of this planet were in fact started by white men and plenty of darker skinned people gave their lives. But do we judge every Spaniard or Englishman or a white person in the same racist way? Try and be more mature and maybe the whole world will be a better place.[/p][/quote]Why dwell on the past when this is the problem of today Useacarpark.com
  • Score: -2

10:43pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Taunton_Sydney says...

lisbonpete wrote:
I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.
Lisbonpete, do you actually know, or have you ever lived with, any muslims? I fall into both categories and contrary to your well thought out opinions, none of them were plotting terrorist attacks; not one of them treated their women like dirt; lo and behold, not one had a problem with myself - a non believer.

Next you'll be suggesting we lock every man up to keep the rapists off the streets.
[quote][p][bold]lisbonpete[/bold] wrote: I do not understand Osama Elogab's problem,other than when on the 'back foot' play the race card,nothing in Mr.Fosters comments were racist he was purely stating the truth. Islam is a religion that belongs back in the middle ages,they treat their women like dirt both at home and in the workplace,their extremists are terrorists,not only killing each other by the thousand across the middle East,but murdering innocent men,women,and children branded as 'non believers'. Is it any wonder they are looked upon with suspicion when their leaders fail to condemn these acts, especially in a Christian country.[/p][/quote]Lisbonpete, do you actually know, or have you ever lived with, any muslims? I fall into both categories and contrary to your well thought out opinions, none of them were plotting terrorist attacks; not one of them treated their women like dirt; lo and behold, not one had a problem with myself - a non believer. Next you'll be suggesting we lock every man up to keep the rapists off the streets. Taunton_Sydney
  • Score: 9

10:51pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Taunton_Sydney says...

Also, shame on the SCG for falling into the 'Daily Mail' trap for the negative reporting of anything Islam related.

Why did they not publish anything relating to the below link, a relevant story to Somerset: http://www.bbc.com/n
ews/uk-england-glouc
estershire-26601341
Also, shame on the SCG for falling into the 'Daily Mail' trap for the negative reporting of anything Islam related. Why did they not publish anything relating to the below link, a relevant story to Somerset: http://www.bbc.com/n ews/uk-england-glouc estershire-26601341 Taunton_Sydney
  • Score: 5

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