VIDEO: Protests at Somerset County Council cuts

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  • Around 30 anti-cuts protesters campaign outside County Hall.
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PROTESTERS outside Shire Hall earlier. 

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HERE is what some people have been saying during public questions:

Pete Bird from Timberscombe: "I am disappointed and angry about cuts. People are going to be treated worse than people in prison. We want to be left as we were."

In reply, Cllr William Wallace, cabinet member for adult social care said: "We have to make savings and our priority is to protect the most vulnerable people in the community. We have spoken to the providers Magna regularly. It is a difficult choice but the right one."

Biddy Garstang: "The council needs to help, support and experience the carers, users and the wonderful staff who work there. If they don't and only listen to the professional there is more of a chance that serious problems will occur."

Liz Payne-Ahmadi: "I was frankly frightened [by the cuts] and I want to know where Somerset is going. What is the future of communities in Somerset from these cuts? Where does the council see this going and what will be left of public services?"

Cllr David Huxtable in reply: "What services we provide will depend on the amount of income we can bring in. We can't continue to provide what we have now without increasing our income significantly."

Glen Burrows said: "These cuts are a massacre of public services and bringing local government to its knees. You must on behalf of the people of Somerset do something about it. 

"It is a poor excuse from David Huxtable to say everything is being done because you have a responsibility someotimes not to tow the party line or follow the tit tat of Government. Carry out the jobs you were elected to do and do not sit on your hands."

In reply, council leader John Osman said: "The funding formula we use does not always work in our favour as we are penalised for being a rural authority.
Supports campaigns for fairer funding. We all want a bigger slice of the pie but we are told the pie is only so big. 

"It is for all of us to see that the cuts come at a cost. We need to build now for the Somerset of tomorrow by building businesses and getting residents in to pay for the services of the future. 

"We have to be a little bit selective on what we choose where we need to make a difference for our residents. We need to listen to the views of people and focus on what is going to bring in money to pay for he services in the community."

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This is The West Country:

PROTESTERS gathered by County Hall in Taunton this morning (February 19) ahead of a meeting to determine the impact of cuts across Somerset.

The full council meeting, which is currently underway, is discussing proposed cuts to council services.

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12:17pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Wurzel Bob says...

Erm, think those outside the County Court may want to head around the corner.....
Erm, think those outside the County Court may want to head around the corner..... Wurzel Bob

1:16pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Hombre says...

Where is Shelia Wheeler?
Where is Shelia Wheeler? Hombre

1:18pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Hombre says...

Wurzel Bob wrote:
Erm, think those outside the County Court may want to head around the corner.....
I think it's the Crown Court, but at least it's sunny where they are!
[quote][p][bold]Wurzel Bob[/bold] wrote: Erm, think those outside the County Court may want to head around the corner.....[/p][/quote]I think it's the Crown Court, but at least it's sunny where they are! Hombre

3:25pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Fozzy64 says...

Sheila Wheeler's £160K salary and £20K+ of pension contributions would be top of my list when it comes to cuts.
Sheila Wheeler's £160K salary and £20K+ of pension contributions would be top of my list when it comes to cuts. Fozzy64

4:41pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ladybird14 says...

does anyone know any more on the Sheila Wheeler case is she still off on full pay this makes my skin crawl !!!
does anyone know any more on the Sheila Wheeler case is she still off on full pay this makes my skin crawl !!! ladybird14

8:05pm Wed 19 Feb 14

nat_11 says...

ladybird14 wrote:
does anyone know any more on the Sheila Wheeler case is she still off on full pay this makes my skin crawl !!!
no check out the other news feed, shes left
[quote][p][bold]ladybird14[/bold] wrote: does anyone know any more on the Sheila Wheeler case is she still off on full pay this makes my skin crawl !!![/p][/quote]no check out the other news feed, shes left nat_11

12:16am Thu 20 Feb 14

Blue Owl says...

This Constant use of this Post site for the Mouthpiece, who ever it is, to continually Role out the same rhetoric, condemning every Political Main party as being out of Touch, wrong with its financial handling of the Economy, is Farcical, the Loony Left as they used to be Branded are alive and well in Somerset, if you read the Crap, that is Posted from this far Left wing socialist Party, I see Dead Centre, is Dave Chapple, mouth piece !!! what a nasty piece of work, his only interest is to bring the Union Workforce out on Strike for the
Minutest of reasons, any disagreement with management, Brothers, you are Union Members you WILL follow the ShopStewards, in Ballot To Strike.
He will not be happy until, he is able to Cripple this Country, well it will not Happen........
We are not that foolhardy, we saw what Scargill ,Joe Gormley, The TUC, tried to do to our Country, if you do not like the outcomes of this a Coalision Government, attempting to rectify the Total Balls -Up of the Labour Years in Government.
Leave, this Country, go to Russia, China, Korea, peddle your Socialist Claptrap there, see how far you get, when you criticise those regimes, of which you seemingly aspire, it's Normally 20 years u get, Hard Labour. !!!!
Would suit u fine One thinks !!!! Now Respond, or is it a Muppet, or Militant Moron Posting this Leffftist Tripe.........Forget the Party Manifesto, what have you to say in Response ??????????
I'- Awaiting !!!!!!!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Conservative, Former Councillor - Local Resident and Businessman.
This Constant use of this Post site for the Mouthpiece, who ever it is, to continually Role out the same rhetoric, condemning every Political Main party as being out of Touch, wrong with its financial handling of the Economy, is Farcical, the Loony Left as they used to be Branded are alive and well in Somerset, if you read the Crap, that is Posted from this far Left wing socialist Party, I see Dead Centre, is Dave Chapple, mouth piece !!! what a nasty piece of work, his only interest is to bring the Union Workforce out on Strike for the Minutest of reasons, any disagreement with management, Brothers, you are Union Members you WILL follow the ShopStewards, in Ballot To Strike. He will not be happy until, he is able to Cripple this Country, well it will not Happen........ We are not that foolhardy, we saw what Scargill ,Joe Gormley, The TUC, tried to do to our Country, if you do not like the outcomes of this a Coalision Government, attempting to rectify the Total Balls -Up of the Labour Years in Government. Leave, this Country, go to Russia, China, Korea, peddle your Socialist Claptrap there, see how far you get, when you criticise those regimes, of which you seemingly aspire, it's Normally 20 years u get, Hard Labour. !!!! Would suit u fine One thinks !!!! Now Respond, or is it a Muppet, or Militant Moron Posting this Leffftist Tripe.........Forget the Party Manifesto, what have you to say in Response ?????????? I'- Awaiting !!!!!!! David L Preece Blue-Owl Conservative, Former Councillor - Local Resident and Businessman. Blue Owl

12:34am Thu 20 Feb 14

Blue Owl says...

Somerset*SocialistPa
rty
wrote:
2014 local elections draft policy platform for the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC)

Councillors can make a difference...

But only if they are prepared to fight

The Con-Dems’ systematic dismantling of the welfare state has put the very existence of local council services at risk. The Labour leader of Birmingham council, Britain’s biggest local authority, has spoken of the ‘end of local government’. Even the Tory chair of the Local Government Association has hypocritically warned that the funding squeeze on councils is ‘unsustainable’.



But it is not true that councils can do nothing but accept the government’s attacks. They still control billions of pounds of public services and have powers they could use to resist. Councillors have a choice. They can make a difference and take steps to improve the lives of millions of people – but only if they are prepared to fight.

The Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) national Steering Committee has agreed a policy platform, outlined below, to contest local council elections in 2014 which, if adopted by just a handful of councils, could make a difference. Even one councillor in each local authority arguing for the policies we outline, if they used their position in the council chamber to appeal to those outside, could give confidence to trade unionists and community campaigners to fight.

This platform, which will be finalised at the TUSC Local Elections 2014 conference on February 1st, is the basis on which any prospective council candidate who wishes to can stand under the TUSC name in local council elections. We encourage every trade unionist, anti-cuts campaigner, community activist and all those who want to see an alternative to the establishment parties to become a TUSC candidate.

The local election platform is a supplement to the core policy statement that TUSC candidates endorsed when they stood in the general election in May 2010, which still stands as the national policy position of the TUSC coalition.

All TUSC councillors will:

● Oppose all cuts to council jobs, services, pay and conditions – we reject the claim that ‘some cuts’ are necessary to our services.

● Refuse to implement the Bedroom Tax. Councils should write off all bedroom tax-related arrears, withdraw all court proceedings and eviction orders where the bedroom tax has been a factor, and call on Housing Associations to do the same.

● Support all workers’ struggles against the cuts, privatisation and the government’s policy of making ordinary people pay for the crisis caused by the bankers and the bosses. Defend the national collective bargaining arrangements for council workers.

● Reject increases in council tax, rent and service charges to compensate for government cuts.

● Vote against the privatisation of council jobs and services, or the transfer of council services to ‘social enterprises’ or ‘arms-length’ management organisations, which are first steps to privatisation.

● Oppose racism and fascism and stand up for equality for all.

● Use all the legal powers available to councils to oppose both the cuts and government polices which centrally impose the transfer of public services to private bodies. This includes using councils’ powers to refer local NHS decisions, initiate referenda and organise public commissions and consultations in campaigns to defend public services.

● Campaign for the introduction of a Living Wage above the minimum wage, including for council employees and those working for council contractors.

● Vote for councils to refuse to implement the cuts. We will support councils which in the first instance use their reserves and prudential borrowing powers to avoid making cuts. But we argue that the best way to mobilise the mass campaign that is necessary to defeat the dismantling of council services is to set a budget that meets the needs of the local community and demands that the government makes up the shortfall.

● Support action against climate change and for a future where sustainability comes before profit.

To find out more or to join TUSC, visit www.tusc.org.uk
You have no idea of how Councils work financially, especially after the Last Labour Government Mishandling of the Countries Bank Reserves , Spending and Running of the Country, That is rapt he reason we are in the Dire Financial Predicament, we now face, and we are only 1/3 through the recovery.
You in your sprawling attack on every Party, that is Not SSP, shows that you are not familiar that, every Council, who ever is the dominating Political Group, has to produce a Balanced Budget ,each year in able to continue running its own affairs, without Officials from Central Government, coming in and taking over the responsibilities.
County and District Councils for many years now have Adopted the Gerswin Principals, which by Law, stated that year on Year Councils have to Make Savings of 3%, or face financial Penalties.
On top of this, each year the Money, which ends up in the District and County
Financial Pot is less, as the £ Millions we are paying off only the interest on the Total Debt.
It's all very well, spouting your Socialist Verbal Prose and Nouns, But Just How are you actually going to create wealth to pay for your idealistic Policies,
Or is it just Hot Air as I Suspect to Rally the Cause !!!!!
Which is Dead B4 it's off the Ground...
PS. Have you seen One Comment Of Support, and if So Why Do they ????
Again David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Please Tell, how you are going to make Our World a Truly better Place, I think Not, in Fact I Know Not......!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Somerset*SocialistPa rty[/bold] wrote: 2014 local elections draft policy platform for the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) Councillors can make a difference... But only if they are prepared to fight The Con-Dems’ systematic dismantling of the welfare state has put the very existence of local council services at risk. The Labour leader of Birmingham council, Britain’s biggest local authority, has spoken of the ‘end of local government’. Even the Tory chair of the Local Government Association has hypocritically warned that the funding squeeze on councils is ‘unsustainable’. But it is not true that councils can do nothing but accept the government’s attacks. They still control billions of pounds of public services and have powers they could use to resist. Councillors have a choice. They can make a difference and take steps to improve the lives of millions of people – but only if they are prepared to fight. The Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) national Steering Committee has agreed a policy platform, outlined below, to contest local council elections in 2014 which, if adopted by just a handful of councils, could make a difference. Even one councillor in each local authority arguing for the policies we outline, if they used their position in the council chamber to appeal to those outside, could give confidence to trade unionists and community campaigners to fight. This platform, which will be finalised at the TUSC Local Elections 2014 conference on February 1st, is the basis on which any prospective council candidate who wishes to can stand under the TUSC name in local council elections. We encourage every trade unionist, anti-cuts campaigner, community activist and all those who want to see an alternative to the establishment parties to become a TUSC candidate. The local election platform is a supplement to the core policy statement that TUSC candidates endorsed when they stood in the general election in May 2010, which still stands as the national policy position of the TUSC coalition. All TUSC councillors will: ● Oppose all cuts to council jobs, services, pay and conditions – we reject the claim that ‘some cuts’ are necessary to our services. ● Refuse to implement the Bedroom Tax. Councils should write off all bedroom tax-related arrears, withdraw all court proceedings and eviction orders where the bedroom tax has been a factor, and call on Housing Associations to do the same. ● Support all workers’ struggles against the cuts, privatisation and the government’s policy of making ordinary people pay for the crisis caused by the bankers and the bosses. Defend the national collective bargaining arrangements for council workers. ● Reject increases in council tax, rent and service charges to compensate for government cuts. ● Vote against the privatisation of council jobs and services, or the transfer of council services to ‘social enterprises’ or ‘arms-length’ management organisations, which are first steps to privatisation. ● Oppose racism and fascism and stand up for equality for all. ● Use all the legal powers available to councils to oppose both the cuts and government polices which centrally impose the transfer of public services to private bodies. This includes using councils’ powers to refer local NHS decisions, initiate referenda and organise public commissions and consultations in campaigns to defend public services. ● Campaign for the introduction of a Living Wage above the minimum wage, including for council employees and those working for council contractors. ● Vote for councils to refuse to implement the cuts. We will support councils which in the first instance use their reserves and prudential borrowing powers to avoid making cuts. But we argue that the best way to mobilise the mass campaign that is necessary to defeat the dismantling of council services is to set a budget that meets the needs of the local community and demands that the government makes up the shortfall. ● Support action against climate change and for a future where sustainability comes before profit. To find out more or to join TUSC, visit www.tusc.org.uk[/p][/quote]You have no idea of how Councils work financially, especially after the Last Labour Government Mishandling of the Countries Bank Reserves , Spending and Running of the Country, That is rapt he reason we are in the Dire Financial Predicament, we now face, and we are only 1/3 through the recovery. You in your sprawling attack on every Party, that is Not SSP, shows that you are not familiar that, every Council, who ever is the dominating Political Group, has to produce a Balanced Budget ,each year in able to continue running its own affairs, without Officials from Central Government, coming in and taking over the responsibilities. County and District Councils for many years now have Adopted the Gerswin Principals, which by Law, stated that year on Year Councils have to Make Savings of 3%, or face financial Penalties. On top of this, each year the Money, which ends up in the District and County Financial Pot is less, as the £ Millions we are paying off only the interest on the Total Debt. It's all very well, spouting your Socialist Verbal Prose and Nouns, But Just How are you actually going to create wealth to pay for your idealistic Policies, Or is it just Hot Air as I Suspect to Rally the Cause !!!!! Which is Dead B4 it's off the Ground... PS. Have you seen One Comment Of Support, and if So Why Do they ???? Again David L Preece Blue-Owl Please Tell, how you are going to make Our World a Truly better Place, I think Not, in Fact I Know Not......!!!! Blue Owl

8:11am Thu 20 Feb 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

Blue Owl wrote:
This Constant use of this Post site for the Mouthpiece, who ever it is, to continually Role out the same rhetoric, condemning every Political Main party as being out of Touch, wrong with its financial handling of the Economy, is Farcical, the Loony Left as they used to be Branded are alive and well in Somerset, if you read the Crap, that is Posted from this far Left wing socialist Party, I see Dead Centre, is Dave Chapple, mouth piece !!! what a nasty piece of work, his only interest is to bring the Union Workforce out on Strike for the
Minutest of reasons, any disagreement with management, Brothers, you are Union Members you WILL follow the ShopStewards, in Ballot To Strike.
He will not be happy until, he is able to Cripple this Country, well it will not Happen........
We are not that foolhardy, we saw what Scargill ,Joe Gormley, The TUC, tried to do to our Country, if you do not like the outcomes of this a Coalision Government, attempting to rectify the Total Balls -Up of the Labour Years in Government.
Leave, this Country, go to Russia, China, Korea, peddle your Socialist Claptrap there, see how far you get, when you criticise those regimes, of which you seemingly aspire, it's Normally 20 years u get, Hard Labour. !!!!
Would suit u fine One thinks !!!! Now Respond, or is it a Muppet, or Militant Moron Posting this Leffftist Tripe.........Forget the Party Manifesto, what have you to say in Response ??????????
I'- Awaiting !!!!!!!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Conservative, Former Councillor - Local Resident and Businessman.
with respect Dave, you constantly post the same nonsense but from a different angle and less eloquently
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: This Constant use of this Post site for the Mouthpiece, who ever it is, to continually Role out the same rhetoric, condemning every Political Main party as being out of Touch, wrong with its financial handling of the Economy, is Farcical, the Loony Left as they used to be Branded are alive and well in Somerset, if you read the Crap, that is Posted from this far Left wing socialist Party, I see Dead Centre, is Dave Chapple, mouth piece !!! what a nasty piece of work, his only interest is to bring the Union Workforce out on Strike for the Minutest of reasons, any disagreement with management, Brothers, you are Union Members you WILL follow the ShopStewards, in Ballot To Strike. He will not be happy until, he is able to Cripple this Country, well it will not Happen........ We are not that foolhardy, we saw what Scargill ,Joe Gormley, The TUC, tried to do to our Country, if you do not like the outcomes of this a Coalision Government, attempting to rectify the Total Balls -Up of the Labour Years in Government. Leave, this Country, go to Russia, China, Korea, peddle your Socialist Claptrap there, see how far you get, when you criticise those regimes, of which you seemingly aspire, it's Normally 20 years u get, Hard Labour. !!!! Would suit u fine One thinks !!!! Now Respond, or is it a Muppet, or Militant Moron Posting this Leffftist Tripe.........Forget the Party Manifesto, what have you to say in Response ?????????? I'- Awaiting !!!!!!! David L Preece Blue-Owl Conservative, Former Councillor - Local Resident and Businessman.[/p][/quote]with respect Dave, you constantly post the same nonsense but from a different angle and less eloquently freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter

3:35pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Mi_Coc says...

30 people great effort, super duper. Great effort everyone ! 30 hole people must of been electric
30 people great effort, super duper. Great effort everyone ! 30 hole people must of been electric Mi_Coc

5:54pm Thu 20 Feb 14

SomersetBranch.SocialistParty says...

2014 local elections draft policy platform for the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC)

Councillors can make a difference...

But only if they are prepared to fight

The Con-Dems’ systematic dismantling of the welfare state has put the very existence of local council services at risk. The Labour leader of Birmingham council, Britain’s biggest local authority, has spoken of the ‘end of local government’. Even the Tory chair of the Local Government Association has hypocritically warned that the funding squeeze on councils is ‘unsustainable’.


But it is not true that councils can do nothing but accept the government’s attacks. They still control billions of pounds of public services and have powers they could use to resist. Councillors have a choice. They can make a difference and take steps to improve the lives of millions of people – but only if they are prepared to fight.

The Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) national Steering Committee has agreed a policy platform, outlined below, to contest local council elections in 2014 which, if adopted by just a handful of councils, could make a difference. Even one councillor in each local authority arguing for the policies we outline, if they used their position in the council chamber to appeal to those outside, could give confidence to trade unionists and community campaigners to fight.

This platform, which was finalised at the TUSC Local Elections 2014 conference on February 1st, is the basis on which any prospective council candidate who wishes to can stand under the TUSC name in local council elections. We encourage every trade unionist, anti-cuts campaigner, community activist and all those who want to see an alternative to the establishment parties to become a TUSC candidate.

The local election platform is a supplement to the core policy statement that TUSC candidates endorsed when they stood in the general election in May 2010, which still stands as the national policy position of the TUSC coalition.

All TUSC councillors will:

● Oppose all cuts to council jobs, services, pay and conditions – we reject the claim that ‘some cuts’ are necessary to our services.

● Refuse to implement the Bedroom Tax. Councils should write off all bedroom tax-related arrears, withdraw all court proceedings and eviction orders where the bedroom tax has been a factor, and call on Housing Associations to do the same.

● Support all workers’ struggles against the cuts, privatisation and the government’s policy of making ordinary people pay for the crisis caused by the bankers and the bosses. Defend the national collective bargaining arrangements for council workers.

● Reject increases in council tax, rent and service charges to compensate for government cuts.

● Vote against the privatisation of council jobs and services, or the transfer of council services to ‘social enterprises’ or ‘arms-length’ management organisations, which are first steps to privatisation.

● Oppose racism and fascism and stand up for equality for all.

● Use all the legal powers available to councils to oppose both the cuts and government polices which centrally impose the transfer of public services to private bodies. This includes using councils’ powers to refer local NHS decisions, initiate referenda and organise public commissions and consultations in campaigns to defend public services.

● Campaign for the introduction of a Living Wage above the minimum wage, including for council employees and those working for council contractors.

● Vote for councils to refuse to implement the cuts. We will support councils which in the first instance use their reserves and prudential borrowing powers to avoid making cuts. But we argue that the best way to mobilise the mass campaign that is necessary to defeat the dismantling of council services is to set a budget that meets the needs of the local community and demands that the government makes up the shortfall.

● Support action against climate change and for a future where sustainability comes before profit.

To find out more or to join TUSC, visit www.tusc.org.uk
2014 local elections draft policy platform for the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) Councillors can make a difference... But only if they are prepared to fight The Con-Dems’ systematic dismantling of the welfare state has put the very existence of local council services at risk. The Labour leader of Birmingham council, Britain’s biggest local authority, has spoken of the ‘end of local government’. Even the Tory chair of the Local Government Association has hypocritically warned that the funding squeeze on councils is ‘unsustainable’. But it is not true that councils can do nothing but accept the government’s attacks. They still control billions of pounds of public services and have powers they could use to resist. Councillors have a choice. They can make a difference and take steps to improve the lives of millions of people – but only if they are prepared to fight. The Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) national Steering Committee has agreed a policy platform, outlined below, to contest local council elections in 2014 which, if adopted by just a handful of councils, could make a difference. Even one councillor in each local authority arguing for the policies we outline, if they used their position in the council chamber to appeal to those outside, could give confidence to trade unionists and community campaigners to fight. This platform, which was finalised at the TUSC Local Elections 2014 conference on February 1st, is the basis on which any prospective council candidate who wishes to can stand under the TUSC name in local council elections. We encourage every trade unionist, anti-cuts campaigner, community activist and all those who want to see an alternative to the establishment parties to become a TUSC candidate. The local election platform is a supplement to the core policy statement that TUSC candidates endorsed when they stood in the general election in May 2010, which still stands as the national policy position of the TUSC coalition. All TUSC councillors will: ● Oppose all cuts to council jobs, services, pay and conditions – we reject the claim that ‘some cuts’ are necessary to our services. ● Refuse to implement the Bedroom Tax. Councils should write off all bedroom tax-related arrears, withdraw all court proceedings and eviction orders where the bedroom tax has been a factor, and call on Housing Associations to do the same. ● Support all workers’ struggles against the cuts, privatisation and the government’s policy of making ordinary people pay for the crisis caused by the bankers and the bosses. Defend the national collective bargaining arrangements for council workers. ● Reject increases in council tax, rent and service charges to compensate for government cuts. ● Vote against the privatisation of council jobs and services, or the transfer of council services to ‘social enterprises’ or ‘arms-length’ management organisations, which are first steps to privatisation. ● Oppose racism and fascism and stand up for equality for all. ● Use all the legal powers available to councils to oppose both the cuts and government polices which centrally impose the transfer of public services to private bodies. This includes using councils’ powers to refer local NHS decisions, initiate referenda and organise public commissions and consultations in campaigns to defend public services. ● Campaign for the introduction of a Living Wage above the minimum wage, including for council employees and those working for council contractors. ● Vote for councils to refuse to implement the cuts. We will support councils which in the first instance use their reserves and prudential borrowing powers to avoid making cuts. But we argue that the best way to mobilise the mass campaign that is necessary to defeat the dismantling of council services is to set a budget that meets the needs of the local community and demands that the government makes up the shortfall. ● Support action against climate change and for a future where sustainability comes before profit. To find out more or to join TUSC, visit www.tusc.org.uk SomersetBranch.SocialistParty

4:58pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Anonone says...

Blue Owl forgot the ruinous Red Robbo whose effects on our car, power and steel manufacturing industries are still being felt today. TUSC will, of course, say it was management, Michael Edwards, but who outside those bolshie unionists would agree with them holding the rest of the country to ransom. Dark Days, just what TUSC would appear to want now. Out of interest how many members are there in this disruptive club. Also does the TUSC correspondent have a proper job, is he out of work, what does he get paid to write this drivel? How can he otherwise spend so much time manipulating the scores? Is there anything he doesn't have the divine answer to?
Freddie - you may have a point there but I'd rather read a thoughtful essay without crossed 'I's and dotted 'T' s than the regurgitated grammatically superior garbage
Blue Owl forgot the ruinous Red Robbo whose effects on our car, power and steel manufacturing industries are still being felt today. TUSC will, of course, say it was management, Michael Edwards, but who outside those bolshie unionists would agree with them holding the rest of the country to ransom. Dark Days, just what TUSC would appear to want now. Out of interest how many members are there in this disruptive club. Also does the TUSC correspondent have a proper job, is he out of work, what does he get paid to write this drivel? How can he otherwise spend so much time manipulating the scores? Is there anything he doesn't have the divine answer to? Freddie - you may have a point there but I'd rather read a thoughtful essay without crossed 'I's and dotted 'T' s than the regurgitated grammatically superior garbage Anonone

1:58pm Tue 25 Feb 14

ShoulderToShoulder says...

Link to video, below.

Southampton rebel councillor Keith Morrell addressed the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) Local Elections 2014 conference on the subject of launching the TUSC challenge in May's council elections.

He spoke just as Ed Miliband was announcing the details of what he called 'the most fundamental changes to Labour's structures since its formation'.

Over 200 trade unionists and socialists met in London to discuss the biggest left-of-Labour challenge in local elections since world war two.

http://www.tusc.org.
uk/16903/14-02-2014/
southampton-rebel-co
uncillor-keith-morre
ll-at-tusc-candidate
s-conference
Link to video, below. Southampton rebel councillor Keith Morrell addressed the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) Local Elections 2014 conference on the subject of launching the TUSC challenge in May's council elections. He spoke just as Ed Miliband was announcing the details of what he called 'the most fundamental changes to Labour's structures since its formation'. Over 200 trade unionists and socialists met in London to discuss the biggest left-of-Labour challenge in local elections since world war two. http://www.tusc.org. uk/16903/14-02-2014/ southampton-rebel-co uncillor-keith-morre ll-at-tusc-candidate s-conference ShoulderToShoulder

2:02pm Tue 25 Feb 14

ShoulderToShoulder says...

Miliband's Tory policies: What exactly is the point of Labour?


Ed Miliband and his shadow cabinet are going hell for leather with speeches and newspaper columns. They want to show how fit they are for election in 2015.

But who are they trying to impress? Certainly not working class people - or even the middle class Miliband claims to now defend in the election pledge top trumps he is playing with the Tories.

The up to 1,000 families falling into debt each month because of the Coalition's cuts to council tax benefit, implemented by Tory, Lib Dem and Labour-led councils, will certainly be on the look-out for policies that promise relief from the ongoing misery of austerity.

Similarly those forced to request specially prepared 'kettle boxes' from food banks, ie products that can be prepared by adding boiling water, such as instant soup, mash and just-add-water porridge.

A 'cold box' food parcel has also been created, containing three days' worth of mainly tinned groceries that can be prepared without the need for heating or hot water for those in even more dire straits.

In a further bid to compete with the Tories, Rachel Reeves, shadow work and pensions secretary, announced Labour's plans to introduce further sanctions to those struggling to find a job.

Those who do not perform well in maths and language tests could lose their benefits under Labour.

In May the Office for National Statistics announced the highest number of vacancies since 2008 - 503,000.

But there were 2.52 million unemployed, over a third of whom had been out of work for over a year.

Nationalising the banks under democratic workers control and management, as well as major taxing of the cash hoards of the super-rich, could help finance a massive programme of socially useful job creation and training.

Part of that could be building quality council housing and renovations to deal with the devastating and spiralling housing crisis - not Labour's increased competition between building companies.

Miliband and Labour have shown they have precisely nothing to offer working people and all those suffering the cruelty of austerity.

Writing in the Financial Times Janan Ganesh hit the nail on the head in summarising that, with the slew of pledges emitting from Labour HQ, Miliband is "evangelising for popular capitalism".

Capitalism, be it Miliband's 'responsible' variety or not, is a system based on private not popular ownership of the wealth of society.

Labour's proclaimed hopes that the provision of choice, competition and regulation will rein in all the excesses is dead in the water.

Oxfam's latest figures expose the reality - today 85 people own as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population! This is the utterly and fundamentally unequal system that Miliband is defending.

Capitalist party

Labour has called for 'more competition' to shake up the banks and house-builders, as they suggested regarding the energy companies at the autumn conference.

But it wasn't that call last October which people warmed to - it was the call to freeze energy prices, which chimed with the popular mood for nationalisation of the energy companies.

But the venomous Daily Mail and other right-wing tabloids went for Miliband, seeing it as an opportunity to crush any perceived diversion from pro-market fundamentalism.

Now Labour is running away from anything that makes even the most modest challenge to the big corporations.

Thatcher claims her proudest achievement was Blair and his pro-capitalist New Labour. Ganesh correctly writes: "Had the late UK prime minister lived to see Ed Miliband propound her own economic vision, the frisson of intellectual hegemony would have been even headier."

This touching faith in 'competition' betrays Labour's incapacity to put forward an alternative to austerity.

This is because today the Labour Party is an outright capitalist party. As Labour 'rising star' Chuka Umunna says: "we're all capitalists now".

Not so. Experience of capitalism means greater numbers recognise that what is needed is not tinkering around the edges but a socialist alternative.

A socialist economy would have to be a democratically planned economy. This would mean bringing all the big corporations, controlling around 80% of the British economy, into democratic public ownership, under democratic working class control.

Socialists argue that such an alternative is possible but it requires mass working class action. As the creators of wealth, workers, when they are organised and have a determined leadership, have enormous potential power.

They need organisations armed with the ideas and understanding of how to change society. If you agree - join the socialists.


Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition

While Miliband's attack on the bankers and the 1% has all the intensity of being savaged by a sheep, Labour's real attacks have been reserved for the trade unions and the remnants of the collective voice of the working class that still pertain in the party.

But Labour's attempts to expel the unions' voice will provoke questioning among workers about how to ensure they have a political say.

Worldwide millions of people are fighting back against the reality of capitalism. In South Africa the miners are preparing to strike once again for wages they can live on.

It is these workers who took the first steps, along with socialists in the DSM (sister party of the Socialist Party in SA), towards building a new mass workers' party with a socialist programme including nationalisation of the mines, living wages for all and a break with capitalism.

Here the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition, involving the RMT and leading trade unionists, is a precursor to fulfilling a similar role. Get involved.

Councillors can make a difference... but only if they are prepared to fight

Next May there will be elections in England for over 4,000 councillors in local authorities across the country.

To get what the BBC calls 'balanced media coverage', parties need to contest 15% of the seats up for election - that means 625 TUSC candidates. Could you be one of those?

www.tusc.org.uk
Miliband's Tory policies: What exactly is the point of Labour? Ed Miliband and his shadow cabinet are going hell for leather with speeches and newspaper columns. They want to show how fit they are for election in 2015. But who are they trying to impress? Certainly not working class people - or even the middle class Miliband claims to now defend in the election pledge top trumps he is playing with the Tories. The up to 1,000 families falling into debt each month because of the Coalition's cuts to council tax benefit, implemented by Tory, Lib Dem and Labour-led councils, will certainly be on the look-out for policies that promise relief from the ongoing misery of austerity. Similarly those forced to request specially prepared 'kettle boxes' from food banks, ie products that can be prepared by adding boiling water, such as instant soup, mash and just-add-water porridge. A 'cold box' food parcel has also been created, containing three days' worth of mainly tinned groceries that can be prepared without the need for heating or hot water for those in even more dire straits. In a further bid to compete with the Tories, Rachel Reeves, shadow work and pensions secretary, announced Labour's plans to introduce further sanctions to those struggling to find a job. Those who do not perform well in maths and language tests could lose their benefits under Labour. In May the Office for National Statistics announced the highest number of vacancies since 2008 - 503,000. But there were 2.52 million unemployed, over a third of whom had been out of work for over a year. Nationalising the banks under democratic workers control and management, as well as major taxing of the cash hoards of the super-rich, could help finance a massive programme of socially useful job creation and training. Part of that could be building quality council housing and renovations to deal with the devastating and spiralling housing crisis - not Labour's increased competition between building companies. Miliband and Labour have shown they have precisely nothing to offer working people and all those suffering the cruelty of austerity. Writing in the Financial Times Janan Ganesh hit the nail on the head in summarising that, with the slew of pledges emitting from Labour HQ, Miliband is "evangelising for popular capitalism". Capitalism, be it Miliband's 'responsible' variety or not, is a system based on private not popular ownership of the wealth of society. Labour's proclaimed hopes that the provision of choice, competition and regulation will rein in all the excesses is dead in the water. Oxfam's latest figures expose the reality - today 85 people own as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population! This is the utterly and fundamentally unequal system that Miliband is defending. Capitalist party Labour has called for 'more competition' to shake up the banks and house-builders, as they suggested regarding the energy companies at the autumn conference. But it wasn't that call last October which people warmed to - it was the call to freeze energy prices, which chimed with the popular mood for nationalisation of the energy companies. But the venomous Daily Mail and other right-wing tabloids went for Miliband, seeing it as an opportunity to crush any perceived diversion from pro-market fundamentalism. Now Labour is running away from anything that makes even the most modest challenge to the big corporations. Thatcher claims her proudest achievement was Blair and his pro-capitalist New Labour. Ganesh correctly writes: "Had the late UK prime minister lived to see Ed Miliband propound her own economic vision, the frisson of intellectual hegemony would have been even headier." This touching faith in 'competition' betrays Labour's incapacity to put forward an alternative to austerity. This is because today the Labour Party is an outright capitalist party. As Labour 'rising star' Chuka Umunna says: "we're all capitalists now". Not so. Experience of capitalism means greater numbers recognise that what is needed is not tinkering around the edges but a socialist alternative. A socialist economy would have to be a democratically planned economy. This would mean bringing all the big corporations, controlling around 80% of the British economy, into democratic public ownership, under democratic working class control. Socialists argue that such an alternative is possible but it requires mass working class action. As the creators of wealth, workers, when they are organised and have a determined leadership, have enormous potential power. They need organisations armed with the ideas and understanding of how to change society. If you agree - join the socialists. Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition While Miliband's attack on the bankers and the 1% has all the intensity of being savaged by a sheep, Labour's real attacks have been reserved for the trade unions and the remnants of the collective voice of the working class that still pertain in the party. But Labour's attempts to expel the unions' voice will provoke questioning among workers about how to ensure they have a political say. Worldwide millions of people are fighting back against the reality of capitalism. In South Africa the miners are preparing to strike once again for wages they can live on. It is these workers who took the first steps, along with socialists in the DSM (sister party of the Socialist Party in SA), towards building a new mass workers' party with a socialist programme including nationalisation of the mines, living wages for all and a break with capitalism. Here the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition, involving the RMT and leading trade unionists, is a precursor to fulfilling a similar role. Get involved. Councillors can make a difference... but only if they are prepared to fight Next May there will be elections in England for over 4,000 councillors in local authorities across the country. To get what the BBC calls 'balanced media coverage', parties need to contest 15% of the seats up for election - that means 625 TUSC candidates. Could you be one of those? www.tusc.org.uk ShoulderToShoulder

2:07pm Tue 25 Feb 14

ShoulderToShoulder says...

freddie_mercury_unde
rcover_reporter
wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
This Constant use of this Post site for the Mouthpiece, who ever it is, to continually Role out the same rhetoric, condemning every Political Main party as being out of Touch, wrong with its financial handling of the Economy, is Farcical, the Loony Left as they used to be Branded are alive and well in Somerset, if you read the Crap, that is Posted from this far Left wing socialist Party, I see Dead Centre, is Dave Chapple, mouth piece !!! what a nasty piece of work, his only interest is to bring the Union Workforce out on Strike for the
Minutest of reasons, any disagreement with management, Brothers, you are Union Members you WILL follow the ShopStewards, in Ballot To Strike.
He will not be happy until, he is able to Cripple this Country, well it will not Happen........
We are not that foolhardy, we saw what Scargill ,Joe Gormley, The TUC, tried to do to our Country, if you do not like the outcomes of this a Coalision Government, attempting to rectify the Total Balls -Up of the Labour Years in Government.
Leave, this Country, go to Russia, China, Korea, peddle your Socialist Claptrap there, see how far you get, when you criticise those regimes, of which you seemingly aspire, it's Normally 20 years u get, Hard Labour. !!!!
Would suit u fine One thinks !!!! Now Respond, or is it a Muppet, or Militant Moron Posting this Leffftist Tripe.........Forget the Party Manifesto, what have you to say in Response ??????????
I'- Awaiting !!!!!!!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Conservative, Former Councillor - Local Resident and Businessman.
with respect Dave, you constantly post the same nonsense but from a different angle and less eloquently
Somerset branch of the Socialist Party would like to thank you for your balanced viewpoint, Freddie!

Oppose ALL cuts to ALL jobs and ALL services!

Solidarity!

www.tusc.org.uk

For more information, or to join the Socialist Party, visit: www.socialistparty.o
rg
[quote][p][bold]freddie_mercury_unde rcover_reporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: This Constant use of this Post site for the Mouthpiece, who ever it is, to continually Role out the same rhetoric, condemning every Political Main party as being out of Touch, wrong with its financial handling of the Economy, is Farcical, the Loony Left as they used to be Branded are alive and well in Somerset, if you read the Crap, that is Posted from this far Left wing socialist Party, I see Dead Centre, is Dave Chapple, mouth piece !!! what a nasty piece of work, his only interest is to bring the Union Workforce out on Strike for the Minutest of reasons, any disagreement with management, Brothers, you are Union Members you WILL follow the ShopStewards, in Ballot To Strike. He will not be happy until, he is able to Cripple this Country, well it will not Happen........ We are not that foolhardy, we saw what Scargill ,Joe Gormley, The TUC, tried to do to our Country, if you do not like the outcomes of this a Coalision Government, attempting to rectify the Total Balls -Up of the Labour Years in Government. Leave, this Country, go to Russia, China, Korea, peddle your Socialist Claptrap there, see how far you get, when you criticise those regimes, of which you seemingly aspire, it's Normally 20 years u get, Hard Labour. !!!! Would suit u fine One thinks !!!! Now Respond, or is it a Muppet, or Militant Moron Posting this Leffftist Tripe.........Forget the Party Manifesto, what have you to say in Response ?????????? I'- Awaiting !!!!!!! David L Preece Blue-Owl Conservative, Former Councillor - Local Resident and Businessman.[/p][/quote]with respect Dave, you constantly post the same nonsense but from a different angle and less eloquently[/p][/quote]Somerset branch of the Socialist Party would like to thank you for your balanced viewpoint, Freddie! Oppose ALL cuts to ALL jobs and ALL services! Solidarity! www.tusc.org.uk For more information, or to join the Socialist Party, visit: www.socialistparty.o rg ShoulderToShoulder

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