Bridgwater shock at Brewhouse closure (From This is The West Country)

not too much shock after all then if the lack of comments on this story are anything to go by!!!!

I'm sure some developer will turn it into a nice block of flats

who needs culture ? what's wrong with athletes foot ridden entertainment at the grottywood bowl followed by the stench of caramel coated popcorn hurled around during the latest uninspiring diabolically acted hollywood grotbuster at the oderous cinema ?

All the OAPS at our day centre were looking forward greatly to seeing the dramatised version of a show we have been hearing about locally, "THE ADVENTURES OF MR BLOBBY IN WESTERN TOYLAND", by local author Edwin Blyter. Now perhaps not, unless we get the Pantomime version next year?.

Really nice venue have seen some great shows there.

Had tickets for Mark Thomas tonight which was cancelled and rescued by Junction 24.

Superb show and hopefully Junction 24 can put on a lot more in future.

Never been there, never intended to go there and don't really give a t*** if it is open or closed.
If the 'arts' enjoyed by 1% of the community can't fund themselves then why should the other 99% of us have to fund it through our taxes?
The council should stop funding all elitest arty cr** and spend their dwindling resourses on mending the roads and making life better for the majority rather than a few who think they are better than the rest of us just because they know who Oberon and Titarnia are!! :-)

who's titarnia ? isn't she staring in the latest ben dover movie ??

fegmaniac wrote:
Never been there, never intended to go there and don't really give a t*** if it is open or closed.
If the 'arts' enjoyed by 1% of the community can't fund themselves then why should the other 99% of us have to fund it through our taxes?
The council should stop funding all elitest arty cr** and spend their dwindling resourses on mending the roads and making life better for the majority rather than a few who think they are better than the rest of us just because they know who Oberon and Titarnia are!! :-)

Whilst agreeing with part of your Posts I really do think that The Brewhouse, could have been saved from closure.!!
Surely, the patrons that attend regularly this Venue, could have fund raised, the shortfall in their Finances, that meant that the Receivers, have had to Close the Doors.
If the Brewhouses, management had appealed to the Patrons ' With A Plea'
To keep it open, I had heard nothing with reference to any Plan to do this.
It is many years since we were there to see a production, I recall it was ' Little House Of Horrors ', excellent production.
But, your comment re 1% of Population attending, 99% not.
Why should those pay for the Arts !!
I clearly remember similar, discussions in SDC re the level of Funding each year for Castle St Art Centre, each year SDC funded the Art Centre to the tune of £120 K, then there was all the Talk of Closing the Castle St Operation and moving it to the Town Hall, with a ' Strummer backing. SDC then offered the Arts Centre building itself to the Board, or Commitee, so that they could apply for extra funding, that might be available from sources such as the Arts Council.
It was, interesting, that when looking @ their finances, despite having one year, an increased higher % footfall, the income received ,did'nt increase??
As, I 've said before, if activities are for the Few, why should the rest of Residents have to pay!!!!!
These activities are not essential services, that are picked up by Councils under their Statatory Duties.
In a recessionary time that we are in, especially.
BridgwaterArts Centre, will if they are not more Cost effective, in their day to
Day running expenditure, may find them selves in similar predicaments.
Why, should we subsidise the Bar there, it should be increasing its prices to Maximise Revenue, or is it because so many Labour Councillors are frequenting it regularly.
Cllr Brian Smedley, lives opposite in the Old Mary Stanley hospital maternity Unite.
Oh, how so Handy to have a Watering Hole right on your doorstep!
Regards Blue-Owl
David L Preece

I think you'll find Cllr Brian Smedley has supported the Arts Centre since 1975 and only lived opposite since 2011. Still, don't facts get in the way of a mad rant.

Cllr Smedley ...take a look behind the Old M&S store ...is that building work going on ...
Will you be @ the opening of the New Swimming Pool ...will the Mayor & Deputy Mayor be there (both being labour Town Cllrs )
Cllr Smedley what are your views about a Labour Cllr voting in favour of the Tesco store being built in Bridgwater .

I've not been invited to the new pool opening.
The Town Mayor has been invited- but it's the chair of SDC whose opening it.
I (personally) think it's a shame that one of the 14 Labour councillors voted for Tesco but you better ask him about that - there is no party whip on planning matters and I've never said Bridgwater was 100% against Tesco -it clearly isn't.
How would you have voted Mr Cidreman? (all the Tories voted 100% for it)
If you're interested in planning matters in the Westover ward you can find them on our website www.westoverward.co.
uk/planning.

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
I've not been invited to the new pool opening.
The Town Mayor has been invited- but it's the chair of SDC whose opening it.
I (personally) think it's a shame that one of the 14 Labour councillors voted for Tesco but you better ask him about that - there is no party whip on planning matters and I've never said Bridgwater was 100% against Tesco -it clearly isn't.
How would you have voted Mr Cidreman? (all the Tories voted 100% for it)
If you're interested in planning matters in the Westover ward you can find them on our website www.westoverward.co.

uk/planning.

Bridgwater mercury 2/11/2012....

"Cllr Smedley said: “The people of Bridgwater have said all along that they do not need yet another supermarket"

Strange Cllr Smedley is not speaking for the whole of Bridgwater .
The Labour group fought the last local elections saying it was against the Tesco store being built ..or am I mistaken Cllr Smedley ..
I would like to hear your views regarding the closures of some of roads around Bridgwater Cllr ....dont you think you might be causing a cridlock of traffic ....then maybe you will blame the Tesco store for it

Bridgwater town council is the elected voice of the people of Bridgwater and it has been consistently against the Tescos development on Northgate. That doesn't mean that every last person in the town or every last councillor is against it. But it does mean it's fair to say that the Bridgwater have been against Tesco all along.
Yes, the Labour group fought the last election arguing against Tesco and Tory SDC's anti-Bridgwater policies.
Not sure what I have to do with road closures but we have pointed out that Tesco combined with Hinkley will cause traffic gridlock unless EDF and the County (who are the Highways people) address that. That's a fairly widely held view around town.

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
I think you'll find Cllr Brian Smedley has supported the Arts Centre since 1975 and only lived opposite since 2011. Still, don't facts get in the way of a mad rant.

Cllr, I am well aware, you have supported the Art Centre for a number of years, I note you did'nt diagree with my points on the SDC past Funding of the Art Centre, year on Year.! When only a small number of Sedgemoors residents, use it. Also the point I made re, increased footfall, but no increase in takings, ie Revenue, income.? But all us have to pay, like your views on the Splash funding,Funny that. Must be cheap booze for the few, in Castle Street. Bridgwater. Just how must is a Pint of Bitter ! Brian !!.
I made comment as to when you moved in opposit, it was just an observation, perhaps too close to Home, or on the doorstep......!!!!!

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
Bridgwater town council is the elected voice of the people of Bridgwater and it has been consistently against the Tescos development on Northgate. That doesn't mean that every last person in the town or every last councillor is against it. But it does mean it's fair to say that the Bridgwater have been against Tesco all along.
Yes, the Labour group fought the last election arguing against Tesco and Tory SDC's anti-Bridgwater policies.
Not sure what I have to do with road closures but we have pointed out that Tesco combined with Hinkley will cause traffic gridlock unless EDF and the County (who are the Highways people) address that. That's a fairly widely held view around town.

Oh Cllr Smedley, the Labour Councillors, are indeed the Elected voice of Bridgwater, 14 - 2 Conservatives, and Just what have you and your Labour Councillors done to help Bridgwater, avoid the problems that every other Town in the S.West has struggled to overcome!!The downturn in the economy, overcoming the EU, dictating European Policies over us, and of course the price we are now paying for 13 years of Labour in nos 10--11 Downing St.
Yes you did fight the last election, spreading your anti Sedgemoor views, re the Pool closure, and Anti Tesco's.
When are you going to realise your Labour Policies are not wanted by Sedgemoor Voters, yes you will always have your staunch Labour Voters, because Bridgwater was in the last 60 years, an industrial Town with traditional Factory workers, but ,Hey Cllr , Call me Brian, that's when you bother to acknowledge anyone in the Street, when you Busy doing Little!!
Civility costs little, respect is earned.
If you had'nt been so deeply involved with your socialist activities over the last 20 years, you will see the Town of Bridgwater has moved Forward, Ooh not allowed to use that word, it has been hi-jacked by the Bridgwater Backward Movement.
I don't remember you voicing any concerns, at SDC Meetings over the last few years, whilst I was there, when the EDF Highway proposals were muted? You were not on the Town Council then either, so when have you put in your Highway Opposition to EDF???
Brian, carry on, with your 'comments re " Mad Rants" when you address my comments. It shows you are really out of touch, with the Residents Views, carry on supporting the Bridgwater Backward Forward Campaign Group, as you seem to be able to have supporters their willing to be lead by your Socialistic out of date thinking.
Thank Goodness SDC is'nt run by the Labour and Libs in Sedgemoor, we would be financially up the Parrett without a Paddle, talk about Queer St, oh no you must'nt now, up the Creek!!
Regards keep on paddling Backwards
David L Preece Blue -Owl....

what a disturbing man.....

Blue Owl wrote:

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
Bridgwater town council is the elected voice of the people of Bridgwater and it has been consistently against the Tescos development on Northgate. That doesn't mean that every last person in the town or every last councillor is against it. But it does mean it's fair to say that the Bridgwater have been against Tesco all along.
Yes, the Labour group fought the last election arguing against Tesco and Tory SDC's anti-Bridgwater policies.
Not sure what I have to do with road closures but we have pointed out that Tesco combined with Hinkley will cause traffic gridlock unless EDF and the County (who are the Highways people) address that. That's a fairly widely held view around town.

Oh Cllr Smedley, the Labour Councillors, are indeed the Elected voice of Bridgwater, 14 - 2 Conservatives, and Just what have you and your Labour Councillors done to help Bridgwater, avoid the problems that every other Town in the S.West has struggled to overcome!!The downturn in the economy, overcoming the EU, dictating European Policies over us, and of course the price we are now paying for 13 years of Labour in nos 10--11 Downing St.
Yes you did fight the last election, spreading your anti Sedgemoor views, re the Pool closure, and Anti Tesco's.
When are you going to realise your Labour Policies are not wanted by Sedgemoor Voters, yes you will always have your staunch Labour Voters, because Bridgwater was in the last 60 years, an industrial Town with traditional Factory workers, but ,Hey Cllr , Call me Brian, that's when you bother to acknowledge anyone in the Street, when you Busy doing Little!!
Civility costs little, respect is earned.
If you had'nt been so deeply involved with your socialist activities over the last 20 years, you will see the Town of Bridgwater has moved Forward, Ooh not allowed to use that word, it has been hi-jacked by the Bridgwater Backward Movement.
I don't remember you voicing any concerns, at SDC Meetings over the last few years, whilst I was there, when the EDF Highway proposals were muted? You were not on the Town Council then either, so when have you put in your Highway Opposition to EDF???
Brian, carry on, with your 'comments re " Mad Rants" when you address my comments. It shows you are really out of touch, with the Residents Views, carry on supporting the Bridgwater Backward Forward Campaign Group, as you seem to be able to have supporters their willing to be lead by your Socialistic out of date thinking.
Thank Goodness SDC is'nt run by the Labour and Libs in Sedgemoor, we would be financially up the Parrett without a Paddle, talk about Queer St, oh no you must'nt now, up the Creek!!
Regards keep on paddling Backwards
David L Preece Blue -Owl....

Blue Fowl surely its you that is out of touch with residents/constituen
ts .....hence you are an EX councillor and councillor Smedley is in fact a serving councillor .......Hmmmmm see if you can get your tiny mind around the fact that the constituents in your ward did not want or trust you to do their bidding .

What **** blue owl talks. The bar was not subsidised by the arts council it was the only bit of the ac that made a profit. The beer was cheaper than some other extortionate establishments around because it had fewer overheads, typical Tory bet he's stroking his little blue friend in anticipation about the next pithy put down he can send out. I agree it was given a lot of cash every year but the brew house had more and you can only put your hand out so many times before it comes back empty. Jct 24 will benefit now and maybe the ac will start putting on shows that people will turn up for instead of the fossils of Blake entertaining the really oaps

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
I've not been invited to the new pool opening.
The Town Mayor has been invited- but it's the chair of SDC whose opening it.
I (personally) think it's a shame that one of the 14 Labour councillors voted for Tesco but you better ask him about that - there is no party whip on planning matters and I've never said Bridgwater was 100% against Tesco -it clearly isn't.
How would you have voted Mr Cidreman? (all the Tories voted 100% for it)
If you're interested in planning matters in the Westover ward you can find them on our website www.westoverward.co.

uk/planning.

There's no whip??? But, if the BTC Planning Meeting, decide against an Application, The Cerk, Alan Hurford will speak on behalf of the Town Councils view, which means ALL the Town Councillors, unless they specifically request to withdraw. So I cannot recall many occasions that SDC Cllrs on The Sedgemoor Planning Panel Vote opposit to the Town Council Planning Members Views. Funny That !!!! or Not...
No Councillor you did'nt say 100%, you implied 63% of Bridgwaters residents.
David Preece
Raving Ranting Blue-Owl

albertfudpucker wrote:
What **** blue owl talks. The bar was not subsidised by the arts council it was the only bit of the ac that made a profit. The beer was cheaper than some other extortionate establishments around because it had fewer overheads, typical Tory bet he's stroking his little blue friend in anticipation about the next pithy put down he can send out. I agree it was given a lot of cash every year but the brew house had more and you can only put your hand out so many times before it comes back empty. Jct 24 will benefit now and maybe the ac will start putting on shows that people will turn up for instead of the fossils of Blake entertaining the really oaps

I never suggested that the Bar was subsidised by the Arts Council, what I said was that SDC subsidised the Art Centre to the tune of £130.000 plus per year, also the Art Centre free of rent, signed over to them 3-4 years ago, so they could become a Ltd Company and apply for Arts Council Grants, and Lottery Funding , of which the Council Could'nt apply for.
What I also said, was that with all the monies from Sedgemoor, and other Organisations, they could not balance their Accounts. It's no good increasing footfall, with no income increases, to help pay the expenditure.
If the Bar was such a fantastic success where were the profits, from the Three years accounts I saw @ Executive Meetings at the time, there appeared to be none, Why ???
Who was drinking the Profits ???
Blue-Owl

Blue Owl wrote:

albertfudpucker wrote:
What **** blue owl talks. The bar was not subsidised by the arts council it was the only bit of the ac that made a profit. The beer was cheaper than some other extortionate establishments around because it had fewer overheads, typical Tory bet he's stroking his little blue friend in anticipation about the next pithy put down he can send out. I agree it was given a lot of cash every year but the brew house had more and you can only put your hand out so many times before it comes back empty. Jct 24 will benefit now and maybe the ac will start putting on shows that people will turn up for instead of the fossils of Blake entertaining the really oaps

I never suggested that the Bar was subsidised by the Arts Council, what I said was that SDC subsidised the Art Centre to the tune of £130.000 plus per year, also the Art Centre free of rent, signed over to them 3-4 years ago, so they could become a Ltd Company and apply for Arts Council Grants, and Lottery Funding , of which the Council Could'nt apply for.
What I also said, was that with all the monies from Sedgemoor, and other Organisations, they could not balance their Accounts. It's no good increasing footfall, with no income increases, to help pay the expenditure.
If the Bar was such a fantastic success where were the profits, from the Three years accounts I saw @ Executive Meetings at the time, there appeared to be none, Why ???
Who was drinking the Profits ???
Blue-Owl

Blue Fowl do you even bother to read the drivel that you type...."I never suggested the bar was subsidised" Hmmmm.....then in your earlier post "Why should we subsidise the bar there"....you really are an idiot

notasnarrowmindedasm
ost wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
Bridgwater town council is the elected voice of the people of Bridgwater and it has been consistently against the Tescos development on Northgate. That doesn't mean that every last person in the town or every last councillor is against it. But it does mean it's fair to say that the Bridgwater have been against Tesco all along.
Yes, the Labour group fought the last election arguing against Tesco and Tory SDC's anti-Bridgwater policies.
Not sure what I have to do with road closures but we have pointed out that Tesco combined with Hinkley will cause traffic gridlock unless EDF and the County (who are the Highways people) address that. That's a fairly widely held view around town.

Oh Cllr Smedley, the Labour Councillors, are indeed the Elected voice of Bridgwater, 14 - 2 Conservatives, and Just what have you and your Labour Councillors done to help Bridgwater, avoid the problems that every other Town in the S.West has struggled to overcome!!The downturn in the economy, overcoming the EU, dictating European Policies over us, and of course the price we are now paying for 13 years of Labour in nos 10--11 Downing St.
Yes you did fight the last election, spreading your anti Sedgemoor views, re the Pool closure, and Anti Tesco's.
When are you going to realise your Labour Policies are not wanted by Sedgemoor Voters, yes you will always have your staunch Labour Voters, because Bridgwater was in the last 60 years, an industrial Town with traditional Factory workers, but ,Hey Cllr , Call me Brian, that's when you bother to acknowledge anyone in the Street, when you Busy doing Little!!
Civility costs little, respect is earned.
If you had'nt been so deeply involved with your socialist activities over the last 20 years, you will see the Town of Bridgwater has moved Forward, Ooh not allowed to use that word, it has been hi-jacked by the Bridgwater Backward Movement.
I don't remember you voicing any concerns, at SDC Meetings over the last few years, whilst I was there, when the EDF Highway proposals were muted? You were not on the Town Council then either, so when have you put in your Highway Opposition to EDF???
Brian, carry on, with your 'comments re " Mad Rants" when you address my comments. It shows you are really out of touch, with the Residents Views, carry on supporting the Bridgwater Backward Forward Campaign Group, as you seem to be able to have supporters their willing to be lead by your Socialistic out of date thinking.
Thank Goodness SDC is'nt run by the Labour and Libs in Sedgemoor, we would be financially up the Parrett without a Paddle, talk about Queer St, oh no you must'nt now, up the Creek!!
Regards keep on paddling Backwards
David L Preece Blue -Owl....

Blue Fowl surely its you that is out of touch with residents/constituen

ts .....hence you are an EX councillor and councillor Smedley is in fact a serving councillor .......Hmmmmm see if you can get your tiny mind around the fact that the constituents in your ward did not want or trust you to do their bidding .

Of course if the Goal posts are moved , ie the Ward Boundary is completely changed to include Syndenham Estate, up to the Parkway Shops, Smiths Estate, Clarks Estate, Westonzoyland Rd, this constitutes completely New Ward, renamed to be Dunwear, not Bower!!! As it was for 12 years + b4, so for the previous 8 years we the Conservatives were Elected, Labour Cllr Monteith, decided to transfer to a Safe Seat on Sydenham, then, so he would'nt lose his seat, or he could not have been elevated to being Town Mayor, True, but I'm sure you will disagree!!!!!
Likewise, the similar thing happened to Conservative Councillors Mike Cresswell, and David Hall, when the other end of Sydenham, was renamed Fairfax Ward, and the demographics of the Voters also changed, Fact!!
Also you will disagree!!
This happened across the Bridgwater Wards , hence the Labour Dominance, with only Cllr's Jill Slocombe ,& David Baker.
They must be sick of not being able to raise a point without being shot down in flames, by the Labour Cllrs on BTC.
Regards Blue-Owl
David L Preece

Coincidence is a strange thing. 2 postings within a minute of each other on 2 different threads by 2 different posters with the same modus operandi.

Doppelganger ?

Blue Owl
I must be be mistaken ...but didnt I read somewhere that Cllr Smedley supported the traffic closure of West Quay ...and the Labour Town Cllrs traffic closure of Eastover & Salmon Parade ..
Whats next for the Labour group ..what can they try and stop next ....
Its strange when you read some of the comments ...Gridlock , traffic problems ..
Bridgwater as been gridlocked with traffic for years Bath Road , Bristol Road , Taunton Road ....Dont go blaming Tesco
Blame your Cllrs what have they done about it ...
Come on Old Boy ..reprogramming the traffic lights ..and take a look where some of the crossings are ...
Its easy to mock Blue Owl but at least he goes to the meetings and says his bit
If our elected Town Cllrs took more notice of the people instead of acting on a left wing group .
Bridgwater will never move forward and prosper while the Labour group continue to fight SDC ...Old 1970 & 1980 values us v them ...Bridgwater residents lose out everytime .

Why are these forums being used continuously as a "how big is my dick" contest, without the actual subject being discussed and going off point within about three or four posts. "Blue Owl" seems to try and dominate every discussion with everyone else being in the wrong. This is a democracy people with everyone having an equal say,and not a place to bash everyone elses viewpoint.

artful280 wrote:
Why are these forums being used continuously as a "how big is my dick" contest, without the actual subject being discussed and going off point within about three or four posts. "Blue Owl" seems to try and dominate every discussion with everyone else being in the wrong. This is a democracy people with everyone having an equal say,and not a place to bash everyone elses viewpoint.

That's your take, on the Posts. So where is your View point, I don't see it in your posts, just another post
criticising like your mates above. So you don't agree with Cidreman, so say why???!!!!!
Blue-Owl

I am getting more and more certain that Blue Fowl and Cidreman are actually the same person you certainly could not separate them with a cigarette paper. One seems to feed the other and the thread then escalates virtually out of control. The only difference is that Cidreman asks questions but never answers them whilst old fowl just..... Well rants.

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
I am getting more and more certain that Blue Fowl and Cidreman are actually the same person you certainly could not separate them with a cigarette paper. One seems to feed the other and the thread then escalates virtually out of control. The only difference is that Cidreman asks questions but never answers them whilst old fowl just..... Well rants.

Typing style, mis-spellings, the odd misplaced capital letter.

Blue Owl will undoubtedly be one here any minute accusing all and sundry of not contributing, picking on him, blah blah blah.

Quite frankly I can't be bothered to respond to his incoherent ramblings, suffice it to say all is not as it appears and I personally find it all a bit sad and pathetic.

......Waits for rapid volley of gobbeldygook from you know who or the sock puppet !

Blue Owl wrote:

artful280 wrote:
Why are these forums being used continuously as a "how big is my dick" contest, without the actual subject being discussed and going off point within about three or four posts. "Blue Owl" seems to try and dominate every discussion with everyone else being in the wrong. This is a democracy people with everyone having an equal say,and not a place to bash everyone elses viewpoint.

That's your take, on the Posts. So where is your View point, I don't see it in your posts, just another post
criticising like your mates above. So you don't agree with Cidreman, so say why???!!!!!
Blue-Owl

My personal opinion on this story is that the Brewhouse should be kept open with the help of some public money, but a strong hard look should be taken at the books at ways it could be self sustaining.This is true of the Bridgwater Arts Centre as well If you get rid of the arts then you get rid of a valuable resource you can never truly get back.
To respond to Blue Owl, i cant see any posts by Ciderman on this topic, i dont know any posters on here and dont belong or affiliate myself to Labour,Conservative or any particular party, and generally think most politicians that are actually in power dont listen to what people want or need but it is always easier to criticise and attack rather than come up with solutions.

Well well well. The innuendo certainly does fly on this forum.

David Preece - ex councillor and road rager (alleged)

Brian Smedley - serving councillor and alcoholic (alleged)

As for my point of view - get rid of the Bridgwater Arts Centre because hardly anyone uses it. Then give tax payers a rebate with the money saved.

bts73 wrote:
who's titarnia ? isn't she staring in the latest ben dover movie ??

I haven't seen his latest movie yet

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
I am getting more and more certain that Blue Fowl and Cidreman are actually the same person you certainly could not separate them with a cigarette paper. One seems to feed the other and the thread then escalates virtually out of control. The only difference is that Cidreman asks questions but never answers them whilst old fowl just..... Well rants.

Bridgeoldboy you answer nothing and add nothing, obviously you support Cllr Smedley, and the Bridgwater Do -Nothing backward forum group. As I can not recall anything remotely interesting from yourself .
Blue-Owl
David L Preece

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
I am getting more and more certain that Blue Fowl and Cidreman are actually the same person you certainly could not separate them with a cigarette paper. One seems to feed the other and the thread then escalates virtually out of control. The only difference is that Cidreman asks questions but never answers them whilst old fowl just..... Well rants.

Bridgeoldboy you answer nothing and add nothing, obviously you support Cllr Smedley, and the Bridgwater Do -Nothing backward forum group. As I can not recall anything remotely interesting from yourself .
Blue-Owl
David L Preece

windswept and interesting wrote:

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
I am getting more and more certain that Blue Fowl and Cidreman are actually the same person you certainly could not separate them with a cigarette paper. One seems to feed the other and the thread then escalates virtually out of control. The only difference is that Cidreman asks questions but never answers them whilst old fowl just..... Well rants.

Typing style, mis-spellings, the odd misplaced capital letter.

Blue Owl will undoubtedly be one here any minute accusing all and sundry of not contributing, picking on him, blah blah blah.

Quite frankly I can't be bothered to respond to his incoherent ramblings, suffice it to say all is not as it appears and I personally find it all a bit sad and pathetic.

......Waits for rapid volley of gobbeldygook from you know who or the sock puppet !

Windswept still waiting for something constructive from you, do you not have a single positive Post,!!!!?
So you are content with insulting me and my Post's, as I said recently, it's like water off a Blue-tits back.
Shall I start speculating as to whom is posting these negative comments, hiding behind their Pseudonym.
It's funny that the Posters who share similar views to mine actually, post their views, all you lot do is jibe, jibe.
Blue-Fowl, Mad Tit, Ranting Owl, the Greeks revere the Owl, as being wise.
David L Preece

Lets go back to 2010....

“I would say that the three parts of the equation, if you wanted to say that David Cameron’s Conservatives are different, would be our approach to the NHS, our approach to green issues and our approach to the arts,” says Jeremy Hunt – the senior half of the Tory culture team and a politician who is tipped for high office within the party. “I think we see our approach to the arts as very totemic of a different Conservative Party.”

True to professed form, George Osborne gave a high- profile speech on the arts at the Tate at the end of 2009 and both Hunt and Vaizey are keen to stress that the arts and the creative industries are now taken seriously at the highest levels of the party."

Taken so seriously that SCC imposed a 100% cut in arts funding.

cidreman wrote:
Blue Owl
I must be be mistaken ...but didnt I read somewhere that Cllr Smedley supported the traffic closure of West Quay ...and the Labour Town Cllrs traffic closure of Eastover & Salmon Parade ..
Whats next for the Labour group ..what can they try and stop next ....
Its strange when you read some of the comments ...Gridlock , traffic problems ..
Bridgwater as been gridlocked with traffic for years Bath Road , Bristol Road , Taunton Road ....Dont go blaming Tesco
Blame your Cllrs what have they done about it ...
Come on Old Boy ..reprogramming the traffic lights ..and take a look where some of the crossings are ...
Its easy to mock Blue Owl but at least he goes to the meetings and says his bit
If our elected Town Cllrs took more notice of the people instead of acting on a left wing group .
Bridgwater will never move forward and prosper while the Labour group continue to fight SDC ...Old 1970 & 1980 values us v them ...Bridgwater residents lose out everytime .

What you have to appreciate, or not, is that we the Human Race are no allowed to make decisions for ourselves, Why I hear u ask !!
We are no longer allowed to drive your car where and when u want to !
No longer, if Cllr Smedley & his BBF had their way could you shop where you want!
SCC, want everyone to Cycle Every where! Without ensuring safe highways, free from Potholes and Channels in the Tarmacadam.
If you enjoy a Cigarette, or Cigar, as I do, you are frowned upon, tutted in the Street, as the Smoke Dissipates in the Sky.
You cannot cross a traffic junction using the Senses, God gave us, No u have to press a button, ignore the Red Man, walk or Cycle across the Crossing.
If you Cycle, it is now the trend to use music IPods ear pieces so you are completely oblivious to your surroundings, and the Cars and HGV's behind you.
Then it is obligatory to cycle @ night with no lights, ignore all traffic lights, and cycle on the pavement, forcing Pedestrians and Mothers with young children and pushchairs to avoid if possible, or risk being sworn at by the Cyclist.
NOW, Thats a RANT.!!!!!!
BLUE-OWL

David L Preece

I've often thought of conducting an experiment by taking a 12 year old, give them 5 cans of dads Special brew and let them loose on an Ipad ?

Someone's beaten me to it!

@blue owl

Hi Dave,

Careful now. Driving your car where and when you want may get you into terrible trouble.

regards

LSFB

Now hang on there blue owl I am a cyclist , I do not cycle on the path I always stop at traffic lights and at night I have lights which are brighter than your jags, I do not swear at pedestrians so please don't put every cyclist in the same group that's like me saying your a reckless drunk driver who's always speeding.

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
what a disturbing man.....

I suspect Disturbed may be a better adjective.

notasnarrowmindedasm
ost wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

albertfudpucker wrote:
What **** blue owl talks. The bar was not subsidised by the arts council it was the only bit of the ac that made a profit. The beer was cheaper than some other extortionate establishments around because it had fewer overheads, typical Tory bet he's stroking his little blue friend in anticipation about the next pithy put down he can send out. I agree it was given a lot of cash every year but the brew house had more and you can only put your hand out so many times before it comes back empty. Jct 24 will benefit now and maybe the ac will start putting on shows that people will turn up for instead of the fossils of Blake entertaining the really oaps

I never suggested that the Bar was subsidised by the Arts Council, what I said was that SDC subsidised the Art Centre to the tune of £130.000 plus per year, also the Art Centre free of rent, signed over to them 3-4 years ago, so they could become a Ltd Company and apply for Arts Council Grants, and Lottery Funding , of which the Council Could'nt apply for.
What I also said, was that with all the monies from Sedgemoor, and other Organisations, they could not balance their Accounts. It's no good increasing footfall, with no income increases, to help pay the expenditure.
If the Bar was such a fantastic success where were the profits, from the Three years accounts I saw @ Executive Meetings at the time, there appeared to be none, Why ???
Who was drinking the Profits ???
Blue-Owl

Blue Fowl do you even bother to read the drivel that you type...."I never suggested the bar was subsidised" Hmmmm.....then in your earlier post "Why should we subsidise the bar there"....you really are an idiot

Why don' t u read what I actually said, instead of reading what you think!!!
My point was that SDC gave grants each year to the Art Centre, for a small nos of residents to attend, from the Residents in total. So why should those residents who don't wish to use the Art Centre, Pay for it. The Bar, from the figures I saw, at the time did not make profits, nor did the increased programme of entertainment, the extra footfall, bums on seats, or in the Bar.
Did nothing to increase the viability of the Art Centre.
Blue-Owl.

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
what a disturbing man.....

Disturbed, am I Cllr Smedley. !!
Even Mad, was one of your descriptions, in one of your Comments
Recently. Ranting, was another, well all I know, if one can not answer a question, or debate a topic.
Then, resort to negative comment, as it proves you Hav'nt got a clue Councillor.
Blue-Owl

Smacks of double standards when a certain poster asks why residents who don't use the Arts Centre should have to pay for those that do, yet on another post supports the provision of a subsidised bus to the new swimming pool.

BTCs money has come from all of our pockets and I for one don't want to pay for others to get too and from the new pool.

No,I said 'disturbing' David. (but you'd have to re-read your post before hand to work out why). Chill out mate.

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
No,I said 'disturbing' David. (but you'd have to re-read your post before hand to work out why). Chill out mate.

Cllr, Smedley, I don't need to " Chill Out", nor am I or ever want to be ' a mate' of yours.!
Don't answer my questions then, why can people who you invite to read you
Westover Ward Cllrs Blog / Pages, not be able to submit question for answers. From you and your Cllrs Site.
Blue- Owl